A.I. Taking Over the Doing of Homework?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of AI in the context of homework and education, exploring concerns about its impact on learning, potential cheating, and the broader societal effects of technology on education systems.

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  • Some participants express concern that AI may fundamentally alter the nature of homework, potentially leading to a decline in educational standards.
  • Others suggest that educational assignments may need to be redesigned to mitigate the influence of AI, indicating a cyclical struggle between assignment design and AI capabilities.
  • A viewpoint is presented that technology oligarchs may be influencing education through AI, raising concerns about the political agendas embedded in these systems.
  • Some participants note that a significant number of students are using AI for homework, with varying degrees of acknowledgment regarding its potential to be considered cheating.
  • There is a discussion about the maturity of students and their ability to make wise choices regarding their education, with some arguing that reliance on AI could lead to a workforce lacking competence.
  • Participants reflect on their own educational experiences, questioning whether they would have cheated if given the opportunity to use AI, and discussing the role of AI as a tool versus a crutch.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for AI to mislead students, which could disrupt their learning process rather than assist it.

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Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the implications of AI in education. Some agree on the potential risks of AI use, while others emphasize the importance of personal responsibility and the role of interest in learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the issue, noting that the effectiveness of AI as a learning tool may depend on individual usage and the maturity of students. There are also concerns about the evolving nature of educational assignments in response to AI capabilities.

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This article in Yahoo portal should seem both unimaginable and undesirable.

"They're not doing it: AI may be killing homework as we know it"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/homework-faces-existential-crisis-ai-100000703.html

I say nothing more yet. All who want to, read, think, respond in your way if feel to do so.


edit: very small minor edit, added three characters for sentence mechanics & grammar purposes.
 
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Already while reading the article it hits me that the assignments were recently changed in “design” as part of the school reform. I wonder if it’s at all possible to do so again to “circumvent” the use of AI. I see for me a gridlocked battle changing the assignments and AI responses in perpetuity to alleviate this problem, possibly creating a new kind of problem as a result…?
 
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Part of the problem is that the technology oligarchs have got western society under their control. Nothing can happen until we have reclaimed our rights as human beings free from technocratic dictatorship.

If not now, when?

The AI systems are already being programmed with the oligarchs political agenda.

They don't care if our education systems are wrecked.
 
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PeroK said:
Part of the problem is that the technology oligarchs have got western society under their control. Nothing can happen until we have reclaimed our rights as human beings free from technocratic dictatorship.

If not now, when?

The AI systems are already being programmed with the oligarchs political agenda.

They don't care if our education systems are wrecked.
I was about to say it sounds paranoid, then again you’re not paranoid if they really are out to get you.
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I asked Google AI about this:

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AI Overview

Yes, a large and growing percentage of kids are using AI for homework, with some studies showing the majority of high school students using it for schoolwork. While some students use it to assist with tasks like summarizing or researching, others may use it to complete assignments, with a significant portion of students acknowledging this can be seen as cheating"
 
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When I was growing up there was a children's TV serial called "The Changes". The plot was that everyone woke up one day and were possessed by an ancient spirit that rejected all new technology. In those days, it was TVs, washing machines and cars etc that were destroyed.

Britain reverted to a medieval society of sorts. It was, of course, supposed to be dystopian.

I'm not so sure that there isn't dystopia in all directions now.
 
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dwarde said:
I asked Google AI about this:

"
AI Overview

Yes, a large and growing percentage of kids are using AI for homework, with some studies showing the majority of high school students using it for schoolwork. While some students use it to assist with tasks like summarizing or researching, others may use it to complete assignments, with a significant portion of students acknowledging this can be seen as cheating"
The point here (the elephant in the room if you will) is that the students who wants to learn will do the work, and the "students" who wont will be sidetracked. I suspect we don't have much to fear where it counts.

I mean you are all highly educated and you got there by doing the work. Would you have cheated had you had the chance?

EDIT: If one is interested in the subject why leave it to an AI?
 
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sbrothy said:
The point here (the elephant in the room if you will) is that the students who wants to learn will do the work, and the "students" who wont will be sidetracked. I suspect we don't have much to fear where it counts.
I think the flaw in that logic is that, at that age most (though not all) students are not yet wise enough to know what's best for them and for their future.

If what you say followed through, we would end up with a generation of 5% competent workers and 95% incompetent. And we can't run a society on only 5% of the jobs filled with competent workers.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I think the flaw in that logic is that, at that age most (though not all) students are not yet wise enough to know what's best for them and for their future.
Well, yes, I admit I assumed a certain maturity. The argument breaks down the younger one gets. But if you made the AI do all your homework are you gonna get into a respected institution?
 
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sbrothy said:
Well, yes, I admit I assumed a certain maturity. The argument breaks down the younger one gets. But if you made the AI do all your homework are you gonna get into a respected institution?
Also, we often hear of young prodigies. I doubt they used AI to skip homework and go surfing.

EDIT: Exactly because they were interested in the subject.
 
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sbrothy said:
I mean you are all highly educated and you got there by doing the work. Would you have cheated had you had the chance?

EDIT: If one is interested in the subject why leave it to an AI?
We can all say, we would not have cheated in order to earn credit. What we might have done and that students might still do is move to a ready-made answer to check ourselves. A more conservative form of this, textbook EXAMPLE exercises, in which we do our best, get stuck, and briefly check some of the solution just enough to try to get unstuck, and then work through the rest of the exercise as best we can. One problem I can figure if trying something like this with A.I. is that the A.I. system could misunderstand or lead us partly the wrong way, and our work progress is thrown off.
 
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symbolipoint said:
We can all say, we would not have cheated in order to earn credit. What we might have done and that students might still do is move to a ready-made answer to check ourselves. A more conservative form of this, textbook EXAMPLE exercises, in which we do our best, get stuck, and briefly check some of the solution just enough to try to get unstuck, and then work through the rest of the exercise as best we can. One problem I can figure if trying something like this with A.I. is that the A.I. system could misunderstand or lead us partly the wrong way, and our work progress is thrown off.
That is an insidious example alright. I guess it comes down to how you use the tool. Respectfully and minimally (aware of the fact that it is a tool) or as your go-to cheat sheet (which triples as your therapist and “long-distance” “partner”).

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