A perfect square inside a circle and a perfect square

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The discussion revolves around the geometric relationship between a perfect square inscribed in a circle and a perfect square circumscribing that circle. Participants explore whether the areas of the regions between the inner square and the circle, and between the circle and the outer square, are equal. The context includes basic geometry concepts and area calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the areas between the inner square and the circle are equal to the areas between the circle and the outer square.
  • Another participant suggests that the question resembles a homework problem and prompts the original poster to consider the areas of a square and a circle.
  • The original poster clarifies that the question is not a homework problem and seeks indulgence in discussing the concept.
  • A different participant challenges the assumption that the areas are equal and encourages a methodical approach to derive the areas of the shapes involved.
  • There is a note that the term "perfect square" is redundant, as a square is inherently perfect in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the areas in question are equal, and multiple viewpoints regarding the nature of the problem and its classification as homework are present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the geometric properties of squares and circles, and the need for clarity in definitions. There is an emphasis on deriving areas through specific geometric constructions, which may not be fully resolved in the conversation.

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A perfect square inside a circle (so the inner square's corners touch the circle) and a perfect square surrounds the circle (so the circle touches the sides of the outer square. Are the extra bits between the inner square and the circle equal to the extra bits between the circle and the outer square?
Im not explaining this very good but hopefully the question makes sense. Don't know how to include a drawing here.
Thanks
 
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This looks like a homework question, if so it belongs in another forum I think.
Anyway, do you know the area of a square?
Do you know the area of a circle?
 
No barefeet this isn't a homework problem lol... its just been a while since I've thought about circles... I am asking in the context of before pi. OK its grade school question, its sort of stupid, but its legit, please indulge if you don't mind.
(fyi I asked a similarly dull question in gen discussion and they moved it to gen math, so I figured I may as well just post here because it would probably get moved lol)
thanks!
 
gonnis, why would you think the area between the inner square and the circle would be equal to the area between the circle and the outer square? Have you made an attempt to come up with an answer for yourself?
1. Start with a unit circle centered at the origin. Its equation is x2 + y2 = 1.
2. Inscribe a square inside the circle, then find the coordinates of the corners of the inner square.
3.Circumscribe a larger square around the circle, and find its corner points.
4. From the information obtained, you should be able to find the areas of all of the objects here, and thereby answer your question.

(BTW, "perfect square" is redundant - a square is a square.)
 

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