A rather weird form of a coherent state

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The discussion revolves around the properties of coherent states in quantum mechanics, specifically the expression of position and momentum operators in terms of ladder operators. Participants are exploring the definition of coherent states and questioning the validity of an alternative definition provided in an exercise.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of coherent states and express doubts about the dimensional consistency of the parameters involved. They explore the implications of the definition on the eigenstate properties of the coherent state.
  • Some participants attempt to prove relationships involving ladder operators and raise questions about the validity of their approaches, particularly regarding the manipulation of operator expressions.
  • There is a focus on proving commutation relations and understanding the implications of these relations on the eigenstate properties of the coherent state.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's approaches. Some have successfully proven certain mathematical identities, while others are still grappling with the implications of their findings. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem, and multiple lines of reasoning are being explored without a clear consensus on the best approach.

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Participants note that the eigenvalue associated with the operator must be dimensionless, which raises questions about the dimensionality of the parameters used in the definitions. There is also mention of the need to justify certain steps in the mathematical derivations, indicating that some assumptions may need further examination.

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Homework Statement
Show that the coherent state $$\vert \alpha\rangle = e^{\alpha p}\vert 0\rangle$$ is an eigenstate of the annihilation operator of the harmonic oscillator.
Relevant Equations
Hamiltonian of the harmonic oscillator: $$H = \frac{p^2}{2m}+ \frac{m\omega^2}{2}x^2.$$
As far as I know we can express the position and momentum operators in terms of ladder operators in the following way
$${\begin{aligned}{ {x}}&={\sqrt {{\frac {\hbar }{2}}{\frac {1}{m\omega }}}}(a^{\dagger }+a)\\{{p}}&=i{\sqrt {{\frac {\hbar }{2}}m\omega }}(a^{\dagger }-a)~.\end{aligned}}.$$
With this the coherent state is usually defined as
$$|\alpha \rangle =e^{-{|\alpha |^{2} \over 2}}\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }{\alpha ^{n} \over {\sqrt {n!}}}|n\rangle =e^{-{|\alpha |^{2} \over 2}}e^{\alpha {\hat {a}}^{\dagger }}|0\rangle,$$
and it can be pretty easily shown that ##\vert \alpha\rangle ## is indeed an eigenstate of ##a##. But if we take the definition given in the exercise
$$\vert \alpha\rangle = e^{\alpha p}\vert 0\rangle$$
I have some doubts if this is really an eigenstate...
  1. First of, ##p## has units of momentum, so how exactly can this be written in an exponential function? Do we assume that ##\alpha## has units of inverse momentum?
  2. Secondly, how exactly does one show that this ##\vert \alpha\rangle## is an eigenstate of ##a##? My attempt was straight forward $$ a \vert\alpha\rangle = a\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}(\alpha p)^k \vert 0\rangle =\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k ap^k \vert 0\rangle.$$ To continue form here on I would need to to rewrite ##ap^k## using the Binomial theorem, which resulted in $$ap^k = \Gamma^k a (a-a^\dagger)^k = \Gamma^k a \sum _{n=0}^{k}{k \choose n}a^{n}(-a^\dagger)^{k-n}.$$ Now the question arises what exactly ##a(a^\dagger)^{k-n}## is and I think it should be ##a(a^\dagger)^{k-n}=(k-n)(a^{\dagger})^{k-n-1}+(a^\dagger)^{k-n}a##, but I wasn't able to prove this yet.
At this point I stopped since I was starting to doubt my approach here... Is this the wrong way to show that ##e^{\alpha p}\vert 0\rangle## is an eigenstate of ##a##? If so, can somebody maybe help me out a bit in how to prove this here?
 
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There are a few ways to do this, and your approach (including your idea of proving the formula a(a^\dagger)^{k-n}=(k-n)(a^{\dagger})^{k-n-1}+(a^\dagger)^{k-n}a, which is true) is one such way. To begin to prove that formula, try playing with small integer values of the exponent of a^{\dagger} to find the pattern.

You're right that now \alpha will need units. Since the eigenvalue of a needs to be dimensionless, this means it won't simply be \alpha anymore.
 
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Thank you for the reply!

Now I was able to prove the statement: ##a(a^\dagger)^m = m(a^\dagger)^{m-1} +(a^\dagger)^ma## for ##m\in\mathbb{N}_0##.
Proof: For ##m=0## the statement is trivially true. Let us assume the statement is true for ##m=n##. We then have
$$\begin{align*}a(a^\dagger)^{n+1}&=aa^\dagger(a^\dagger)^n = (a^\dagger)^n+a^\dagger a (a^\dagger)^n= (a^\dagger)^n+a^\dagger \left(n(a^\dagger)^{n-1}+(a^\dagger)^na\right)\\&=(n+1)(a^\dagger)^n+(a^\dagger)^{n+1}a\end{align*}$$

After proving this I tried to continue but encountered a bit of an issue. What I want in the end is ##a\vert\alpha\rangle = \alpha\vert\alpha\rangle##, which is equivalent to
$$a\vert\alpha\rangle=\alpha \vert\alpha\rangle = \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^{k+1}p^k \vert 0\rangle.\tag{*}$$
If I now insert the above proof into my previous result I get
$$\begin{align*}a\vert\alpha\rangle& = \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k ap^k \vert 0\rangle\\
&= \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k \left[\Gamma^k a \sum _{n=0}^{k}{k \choose n}a^{n}(-a^\dagger)^{k-n}\right]\vert 0\rangle \\
&=\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k \left[\Gamma^k \sum _{n=0}^{k}{k \choose n} a^n (-1)^{k-n}\left((k-n)(a^{\dagger})^{k-n-1}+(a^\dagger)^{k-n}a\right)\right]\vert 0\rangle
.\end{align*}$$
The term with ##(a^\dagger)^{k-n}a## can be ignored since ##a\vert 0\rangle=0.## We therefore end up with
$$a\vert\alpha\rangle = \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k \left[\Gamma^k \sum _{n=0}^{k}{k \choose n} a^n (-1)^{k-n}(k-n)(a^{\dagger})^{k-n-1}\right]\vert 0\rangle. $$
If I compare this equation to eq. ##(*)## I need to show that
$$\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^{k+1}p^k = \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k \left[\Gamma^k \sum _{n=0}^{k}{k \choose n} a^n (-1)^{k-n}(k-n)(a^{\dagger})^{k-n-1}\right].$$
After looking at this for a while I'm pretty sure I need to perfrom an index shift at some point, but the bigger problem for me right now is that I can't piece together the momentum operator ##p## on the righthand-side due to the Binomial coefficient. Can you maybe help me here?
 
Markus Kahn said:
What I want in the end is ##a\vert\alpha\rangle = \alpha\vert\alpha\rangle##
Since the operator ##a## is dimensionless, the eigenvalue will be dimensionless. So, the eigenvalue cannot be ##\alpha## since ##\alpha## has dimensions of inverse momentum.

$$a\vert\alpha\rangle = \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k ap^k \vert 0\rangle$$
Note that ##a p^k \vert 0 \rangle = [a, p^k] \vert 0 \rangle##. The commutator ##[a, p^k]## reduces to a fairly simple expression. First work out ##[a, p]##, ##[a, p^2]##, and ##[a, p^3]## to see the pattern.
 
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Thanks for the help. Let ##\Gamma = i{\sqrt {{\frac {\hbar }{2}}{{m\omega }}}}## such that ##p=\Gamma (a^\dagger -a)##.
  • ##[a,p]=\Gamma##
  • ##[a,p^2]=2\Gamma^2 (a^\dagger-a)##
  • ##[a,p^3]=\Gamma^3 (4{a^\dagger}^2-3a^2-3a^\dagger a -aa^\dagger)##
Now the last one is probably wrong, since there is no pattern I can recognize there (I checked it multiple times and always got this result, so I'm probably doing something systematically wrong)... If I had to guess based on the first two, I'd say the pattern is something along the lines of
$$[a,p^k]=k\Gamma^k (a^\dagger - a)^{k-1}= k\Gamma p^{k-1}$$
Proof. For ##k=0## the statement is trivially true. Assume the statement is true for ##k=n##. We then have
$$[a,p^{n+1}]=p^n[a,p]+[a,p^{n}]p = p^n\Gamma +n \Gamma p^n = (n+1)\Gamma p^n.$$
So it seems my guess was right.

From your input I'm now able to get
$$\begin{align*}a\vert\alpha\rangle
&= \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k ap^k \vert 0\rangle=\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k [a,p^k] \vert 0\rangle= \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k k\Gamma p^{k-1} \vert 0\rangle\\
&=\Gamma \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{(k-1)!}\alpha^k p^{k-1} \vert 0\rangle = \alpha\Gamma \sum\limits_{k=1}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k p^k \vert 0\rangle=\alpha\Gamma\vert \alpha\rangle,
\end{align*}$$
where I'm not really sure about the last step, since I can't really justify why the first term in the sum is zero.

P.S. Am I correct in assuming that my first approach therefore couldn't produce the desired result.
 
Markus Kahn said:
$$[a,p^k]=k\Gamma^k (a^\dagger - a)^{k-1}= k\Gamma p^{k-1}$$
Yes

From your input I'm now able to get
$$\begin{align*}a\vert\alpha\rangle
&= \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k ap^k \vert 0\rangle=\sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k [a,p^k] \vert 0\rangle= \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k k\Gamma p^{k-1} \vert 0\rangle\\
&=\Gamma \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{(k-1)!}\alpha^k p^{k-1} \vert 0\rangle = \alpha\Gamma \sum\limits_{k=1}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k p^k \vert 0\rangle=\alpha\Gamma\vert \alpha\rangle,
\end{align*}$$
where I'm not really sure about the last step, since I can't really justify why the first term in the sum is zero.
Go to the first equality where you have
$$a\vert\alpha\rangle
= \sum\limits_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{k!}\alpha^k ap^k \vert 0\rangle$$
You can see that k = 0 yields zero contribution.

P.S. Am I correct in assuming that my first approach therefore couldn't produce the desired result.
Your first approach might work. But it was looking messy.
 
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