Calculating Tensions in a Vertical Circular Motion Problem

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The problem involves calculating the tensions in a rope during a stuntman's vertical circular motion. The scenario describes a 70 kg stuntman swinging from a 4.0 m rope, starting from rest when the rope is horizontal, and requires finding the tensions at various points in the motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use energy conservation and tension equations to find the required tensions at different points in the motion. Some participants question the validity of the calculated tension, suggesting a comparison with the stuntman's weight to assess realism.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a dialogue about the calculations, with some expressing uncertainty about the results. There is a suggestion that the conservation of energy approach is effective, and some participants affirm the original poster's reasoning as realistic.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the application of angles in the calculations, and the discussion reflects on the importance of foundational principles in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A stuntman whose mass is 70 kg swings from the end of a 4.0-m-long rope along the arc of a vertical circle. Assuming he starts from rest when the rope is horizontal, find the tensions on the rope that are required to make him follow his circular path,(a) at the beginning of his motion, (b) at a height of 1.5 m above the bottom of the circular arc, and (c) at the bottom of his arc.


Homework Equations


F = ma
F = m * v^2/r


The Attempt at a Solution


a) Using the equation F = m*v^2/r, F is 0 because v is 0
b) First, I used the energy approach attempting to solve the problem:
mgh = 0.5mv^2 + mgh,
9.8 * 4 = 0.5 * v^2 + 9.8 * 1.5
v = 7m/s.

As I get velocity, I plugged the value into
F = m * v^2 / r
F = 70kg * 7^2 / 4
F = 857N

I do not think this is right, since the value is too large. Also, I found out that I can calculate the angle of the distance he travelled: arccos(2.5/4) = 0.89rad --> pi/2 - 0.89 rad = 0.68 rad, this is the angle which he travelled. But I do not know where to plug this in anywhere.
 
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Why do you think this value is too large? Compare your tension with the weight of the stuntman; does the value seem more realistic now?
 
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Hootenanny said:
Why do you think this value is too large? Compare your tension with the weight of the stuntman; does the value seem more realistic now?
Are you saying I did this right? Yeah, now you've said it, I think it is realistic... Wow, I thought I didn't get this chapter at all
 
cy19861126 said:
Are you saying I did this right? Yeah, now you've said it, I think it is realistic... Wow, I thought I didn't get this chapter at all
Yep it looks spot on to me :smile:. Conservation of energy is by far the easiest approach to solving circular motion, many students overlook this method initially as they want to use all the new equations (toys) they've been given :wink:. They forget their basic principles, well that's what I find anyway...
 

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