A technical question that has to do with Hodge Star

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the Hodge star operator in the context of complex matrices and functions. Participants explore the implications of multiplying expressions involving the Hodge star and the conditions under which certain operations can be performed, particularly in relation to linear and conjugate-linear mappings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is valid to move the real part of a complex matrix, $$ReM_{IJ}$$, into the parentheses of an expression involving the Hodge star, suggesting two possible interpretations of the operation.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the definition of the Hodge star in this context, indicating a need for precision in understanding its application.
  • A participant notes that the Hodge star is a linear map, but cautions that in complex geometry, it may be conjugate-linear, which raises further questions about its behavior with complex functions.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of using a complex function in relation to the Hodge star, specifically whether the operation $$\star(c\omega)$$ holds true when $$c$$ is complex.
  • Another participant explains that the conjugate-linear version of the Hodge star involves taking both the Hodge dual and the complex conjugate, providing an example of its application in defining a Hermitian product on complex manifolds.
  • One participant expresses understanding of the linear nature of the Hodge star and inquires whether a complex function can be treated similarly to a real function when applying the Hodge star.
  • A suggestion for further reading on the topic of mappings is made, indicating a desire for deeper understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the Hodge star with respect to complex functions, particularly regarding the implications of linear versus conjugate-linear mappings. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore these nuances without reaching consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the Hodge star operator in different contexts, particularly in relation to complex numbers and functions. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in definitions and the potential for different interpretations based on the mathematical framework being used.

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If we have an equation that looks like $$H=Y$$ and we want to multiply H by either $$ReM_{IJ}$$ or $$ImM_{IJ}$$ where $$M_{IJ}$$ is a complex matrix. But the thing is that $$Y=\star(...)$$ where $$\star$$ is hodge star and (...) is set of complex functions and other numerical stuff, my question is technical here, say we decide to multiply H by $$ReM_{IJ}$$ can we move $$ReM_{IJ}$$ into the parenthesis and jump over the Hodge star? That is to say $$ReM_{IJ}H=\star(ReM_{IJ} ...)$$ or this is absolutely wrong and we should keep $$ReN_{IJ}$$ outside the Hodge star? That is to say $$ReM_{IJ}H=ReM_{IJ}\star( ...)$$

EDIT: M_{IJ} is a complex matrix
 
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What's your definition of the Hodge Star in this context?
 
Hodge star in R^3.
 
The Hodge star is a linear map. Careful though, in complex geometry sometimes the Hodge star is a conjugate-linear map. Hence the reason for the question.

P.S. Your posts would be way easier to read if you use in-line Latex where appropriate.
 
What do you mean here by conjugate-linear map? Let me be more specific with my question, do you mean if "c" is a real number or real function then
$$ \star(c\omega)=(c\star \omega)$$
If so, then what will happen if c were a complex function instead?

Note: I am trying to using a single "$" for in-line Latex with no results :(!
 
Actually, I think the conjugate-linear version is typically written ##\bar \star##. It means the combination of taking the Hodge dual and the complex conjugate. Hence for a complex number ##c##,

$$\bar \star \; c \omega = \bar c \; \bar \star \; \omega.$$

As for why you would want to do this: it allows you to define a natural Hermitian product on compact complex manifolds:

$$\langle \alpha, \, \beta \rangle = \int_M \alpha \wedge \bar \star \, \beta.$$

On PF, use ## for in-line Latex.
 
Oh great, I understand now, then for a linear map ##\star## and if ##c## is a complex function then it will not affect the complex function upon leaping it over the ##\star##

That is to say, is the following correct if the c is a complex function:

$$\star(c\omega)=c\star\omega$$

Thank you for the in-line tip, much neater! And if you may suggest for me a good read about those mappings (linear and complex conjugate) I'd be grateful!
 
You should read Nakahara's book.
 
Ok thank you, but about the last thing I mentioned about the complex function in my previous comment? I would appreciate if you reread my previous comment again? Does the complex function leap over the linear Hodge dual with no problem the same as if it were a real function?
 

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