A tennis ball dropped vertically (Newton's Forces)

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The problem involves a tennis ball dropped vertically, focusing on the forces acting on it during its fall. The subject area pertains to Newton's laws of motion and forces, specifically examining resistive forces and acceleration due to gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of resistive forces and question the role of the normal force in this context. There is an exploration of the equations used to derive the average resistive force and the implications of defining directionality in the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the forces at play, with some participants providing guidance on the equations used. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the normal force and the direction of forces, leading to further questions about the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the assumptions about forces acting on the tennis ball, particularly the absence of a normal force in this scenario. The discussion reflects on the implications of choosing different reference directions for acceleration.

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A tennis ball has a mass of 0.057 kg. After falling 18 m vertically from rest it has a speed of 12 m/s. What is the magnitude of the average resistive force acting on it as it falls?

My answer for this was .3306N


mass = 0.057kg

Vi = 0 m/s

Vf = 12m/s

Xi = 18m

Xf=0m


I started with w=mg = -0.05586N

So FN must be 0.05586N since it is dropped vertically. The free body diagram would be FN pointed up and weight pointing straight down.

I used the equation V^2 = Vi^2 +2a\Deltax

(12m/s)^2 = 2a(-18m)

a = -4m/s^2

F=ma

F=(.057kg)(-4m/s^2) = -0.228N

Fnet = Fn + Fresistance = .5586N + (-.228N) = .3306N
 
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What is the normal force due to in this problem? Wouldn't there only be the force of gravity (pointing down) and the resistive force (pointing up)?
 
There isn't a normal force. Yes, that solution is confusing. Better to write
mg - F = ma (downward is positive)
F = m(g-a) = .057(g - 4) = 0.331 N.
 
Okay, thank you. I recognized that after i replied/worked the solution out myself.
 
Delphi51 said:
There isn't a normal force. Yes, that solution is confusing. Better to write
mg - F = ma (downward is positive)
F = m(g-a) = .057(g - 4) = 0.331 N.

So you set the Fy which is mg and F equal to ma? What would the equation look like if you said downward was negative? I worked it out and got the acceleration as negative. Is it because you said downward was positive that -4m/s^2 was now just 4m/s^2?
 
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