A theory about the beginning of the universe

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The discussion revolves around a proposed theory regarding the origin of the universe, specifically focusing on the role of black holes in cosmic evolution and the potential for a cyclical universe model. The scope includes theoretical cosmology and speculative reasoning about black hole behavior and galactic dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that all matter in the universe will eventually be consumed by black holes, leading to a single black hole that could trigger a new big bang.
  • Another participant challenges this view, stating that stars and other matter can orbit black holes indefinitely and that the expansion of the universe will prevent black holes from consuming all matter.
  • Concerns are raised about the definition of a galaxy's center and the implications of galaxy collisions on black hole dynamics.
  • Some participants question the internal consistency of the proposed theory and the lack of evidence supporting such events occurring in reality.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of black holes and their event horizons, with one participant suggesting that a sufficiently large black hole could warp spacetime significantly.
  • Another participant emphasizes that black holes do not "eat everything" and that matter can orbit them without falling in.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express significant disagreement regarding the validity of the proposed theory. Multiple competing views are presented, with some participants defending aspects of the theory while others challenge its assumptions and conclusions. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the speculative nature of the proposed theory, the dependence on definitions of cosmic structures, and unresolved questions about the behavior of black holes and the universe's expansion.

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Hey. Yo

I made a theory of how the universe began just by my self. here goes. i need feed back :D

So we have black holes right?

And in every center of a galaxy we have a large monster black hole.

So virtually all galaxies are doomed to be food for a black hole.

So in a very very very very long period of time. black holes would have eaten every thing. every single atom in the universe.
So the black holes start collision. They all collide so now we have a single black hole with all the matter in the universe. So that monster is very large that it begins EATING space time.
So now. the black hole contains everything. the universe and all matter.
So now that black hole has reached its limit.
IT expands in a big bang. and the process goes all over again.

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There are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to begin. You should start by reading the rules, which prohibit personal theories and then by reading the FAQ in the cosmology section which will help you understand some of your flaws.

You are clearly enjoying thinking about cosomolgy, which is a good thing, but you should learn some of the basics before running wild.

EDIT: any by the way, this theory, or a variation of it, has shown up here several times, so take heart in the fact that you are not alone in having let your imagination get ahead of the facts.
 
phinds said:
There are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to begin. You should start by reading the rules, which prohibit personal theories and then by reading the FAQ in the cosmology section which will help you understand some of your flaws.

You are clearly enjoying thinking about cosomolgy, which is a good thing, but you should learn some of the basics before running wild.

EDIT: any by the way, this theory, or a variation of it, has shown up here several times, so take heart in the fact that you are not alone in having let your imagination get ahead of the facts.

Exactly lol :o.

But which parts are the wrong? and what are the correct parts? also can the wrong parts be correct in another way.

And ya. i imagine a lot in astronomy :)
 
But which parts are the wrong? and what are the correct parts? also can the wrong parts be correct in another way.

">>" is quoted text from post 1, as I don't want to add 10 quote tags.

>> So we have black holes right?
Right

>> And in every center of a galaxy we have a large monster black hole.[/quote]
At least on most galaxies. Galaxy collisions can change that (it gets tricky to define "center" when the whole system has some strange shape).

>> So virtually all galaxies are doomed to be food for a black hole.
No. Stars (and other stuff) can orbit the galactic center for an extremely long time, or float somewhere outside.

>>So in a very very very very long period of time. black holes would have eaten every thing. every single atom in the universe.
No. The expansion of the universe will make them so rare that many atoms never hit one

>>So the black holes start collision. They all collide so now we have a single black hole with all the matter in the universe.
No. Again, the expansion of the universe will isolate galaxy clusters - while some stars and black holes within galaxy clusters might collide (but do not have to), you won't get a single black hole as result.

>> So that monster is very large that it begins EATING space time.
This does not make sense at all.

>> So now. the black hole contains everything. the universe and all matter.
No

>> So now that black hole has reached its limit.
I don't know what you mean with "limit".

>> IT expands in a big bang.
No, but there is a similar, interesting concept.
 
Even supposing that your explanation were internally consistent and accurate in the sense of the behaviour of black holes, what evidence do you have that these events actually took place? You have to compare your theory to reality at some point.
 
>> So that monster is very large that it begins EATING space time.
This does not make sense at all.


The black hole becomes so large that it warps space time sooo much that it becomes infinite

And that black hole is probably going to be so huge

That it's event horizon would eventually warp a lot a lot of space time inside. thus limiting the expansion of the universe.

Also.

Why is it not possible that galaxy clusters won't form 1 big black holes?

Also it is known that black holes some times defy physics as we know it in a "Singularity"
 
From a distance, black holes are no different than stars that begat them. They do not "eat everything" any more than a star does. Sure, if something falls onto one, then it's definitely going to have a bad day, and will get added to the mass of the hole - but it's just as well with stars.
Things can happily orbit black holes for the eternity(barring big rip scenarios etc.) without falling into them.
 
Thread closed, pending moderation.

Zz.
 

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