A Time Dependent Hamiltonian problem

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The discussion focuses on deriving the time evolution of a wavefunction and the expectation value of the Hamiltonian for a given normalized wavefunction. The wavefunction is expressed as a superposition of two states, and the time-dependent Hamiltonian is applied to find the time evolution. The expectation value of the Hamiltonian is calculated through integration, revealing terms that vanish due to orthogonality and normalization of the states involved. A correction is noted regarding the inclusion of the time dependence of the complex conjugate of the wavefunction in the integrals. The integration ultimately shows that both approaches yield similar results, with terms tending to zero as time progresses.
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Homework Statement



We want to get the time evolution of a wavefunction and the expectation value of the Hamiltonian, and from there we can show that it's the same as the time-independent result. So to be clear: given a wavefunction, get the time evolution of that function and the expectation value of the Hamiltonian.

The (normalized) wavefunction is \psi = \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}(1\phi_1 + 2\phi_2)

Homework Equations



The (time dependent) Hamiltonian: \hat H \psi = i \hbar \frac{\partial \psi(x,t)}{\partial t}

The Attempt at a Solution



For any wavefunction the time dependent form would be \psi (x) e^{-i\omega t}

That means that \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial t} = -i \omega \phi (x) e^{-i\omega t}

So for this particular wavefunction \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial t} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} (-i \omega_1 \phi_1 (x) e^{-i \omega_1 t} -2i \omega_2 \phi_2 (x) e^{-i \omega_2 t})

(since we are taking a derivative w/r/t time)

Given that if we want the expectation value of the Hamiltonian (from interval 0 to L) it would look like this:

\langle \hat H \rangle = \int^L_0 \psi^* \hat H \psi dx = \int^L_0 \psi^* \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \hbar ( \omega_1 \phi_1 (x) e^{-i \omega_1 t}+2 \omega_2 \phi_2 (x) e^{-i \omega_2 t}) dx
= \int^L_0 \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}(\phi_1^*(x) + \phi_2^*(x)) \frac{1}{\sqrt{5}} \hbar ( \omega_1 \phi_1 (x) e^{-i \omega_1 t}+2 \omega_2 \phi_2 (x) e^{-i \omega_2 t}) dx

and multiplying this out we end up with

\frac{1}{5} \hbar \int^L_0 (\omega_1 \phi_1^*\phi_1 e^{-i\omega_1 t} + 2 \omega_2\phi_1^* \phi_2 e^{-i\omega_2 t}+\omega_1\phi_1 \phi_2^* e^{-i \omega_1 t} + 2\omega_2 \phi_2^* \phi_2 e^{-i\omega_2 t})dx

This is where I am curious if a certain thing is "allowed." As I understand it the terms 2 \omega_2\phi_1^* \phi_2 e^{-i\omega_2 t} and \omega_1\phi_1 \phi_2^* e^{-i \omega_1 t} will go to zero, (at least when integrated). That should leave

\frac{1}{5} \hbar \int^L_0 (\omega_1 \phi_1^*\phi_1 e^{-i\omega_1 t} + 2\omega_2 \phi_2^* \phi_2 e^{-i\omega_2 t})dx

and the term \phi_1^*\phi_1 should be equal to |\phi_1|^2. If that's the case, then I can use the sinusoidal version of the wavefunction, \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}\sin\left(\frac{n\pi x}{L}\right) with the n being 1 and 2, and just do the full on integration w/r/t x from there. That done I find that all the sin terms cancel out and with them the exponentials.

Of course I cold be wrong -- if I am spposed to integrate with respect to t though, it seems I get a similar result, though I would have a bunch of constants multiplied by exponentials with \frac{1}{i \omega} terms.

Anyhow I want to know if I am approaching this correctly or if I have really, really lost the plot somewhere. Thanks in advance.
 
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You forgot the time-dependence of \psi^* in your integral. Otherwise it looks good. The integrals are trivial given that \phi_1 and \phi_2 are normalized and orthogonal to each other.
 
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vanhees71 said:
You forgot the time-dependence of \psi^* in your integral. Otherwise it looks good. The integrals are trivial given that \phi_1 and \phi_2 are normalized and orthogonal to each other.

I wasn't sure if the complex conjugte would have that, but yes, you're right -- it should be there -- so that means that \psi^* should be \psi^*= (\phi_1^*(e^{(-i \omega_1 t)} + \phi_2^*(e^{(-i \omega_2 t)}), correct? And when I multiply that out I would end up with (\phi_1^*\phi_1(e^{(-2i \omega_1 t)}) + 2\phi_2^*\phi_2(e^{(-2i \omega_2 t)}) and integrating that is, as you say, not much of a problem (Interestingly, whether i do it with respect to x or t seems to make no difference; in one case I get sine terms that go to zero. In the other I get exponentials that go to zero as t -> infinity and get smaller in any case. I didn't know what that tells me, but it's a funny thing).
 

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