A weird velocity/acceleration question

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The discussion revolves around solving a kinematics problem involving an object described by the equation x = vt + ke^(bt). For part a, the initial velocity at t=0 is found to be v + kb, correcting the initial assumption. In part b, the acceleration at t = 1/b seconds is determined to be kb^2e. The key takeaway is the importance of differentiating the position function to find velocity and acceleration, as the original equations were misapplied. The clarification emphasizes that v is a constant in this context, which affects the differentiation process.
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Homework Statement



This problem showed up in my final review packet, and I /think/ it should be basic kinematics, but I don't even know how to approach it with the second half of it.

An object moves according to the equation x = vt + ke^(bt), where k, v, and b are constants, x represents distance in meters, t represents time in seconds, and e is the base of the natural logarithms.

a. Find the initial velocity (at time t=0)
b. Find the acceleration at t = 1/b seconds.

Homework Equations


x = vt + .5at2

The Attempt at a Solution



a: I assumed inital velocity would just be v... but the answer key says it's supposed to be v + kb.

b: Since the equation given was similar to the format of x = vt + .5at2, I made the (questionable, I think) assumption that kebt = .5at2.

Plugging in t = 1/b,

.5a(1/b2) = keb/b

a = 2keb2

This one was closer to the actual answer of keb2, but still wrong and I'm very lost now.

I feel like I went in the completely wrong direction with this... any pointers?
 
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The relevant equation you identified is for a system with constant acceleration. Not applicable here. If you are given an expression for x(t), what to you normally do to get the expression for v(t)? For a(t)?
 
I think I'd take the derivative of x(t) for v(t), and the second derivative for a(t). But since v is already in the equation, does that still apply?
 
inaiki said:
I think I'd take the derivative of x(t) for v(t), and the second derivative for a(t). But since v is already in the equation, does that still apply?

I'd assume ##v## is supposed to be a constant here. As stated in the question, in fact. This means you are not going to be able to use the symbol ##v## for ##dx/dt##.
 
PeroK said:
I'd assume ##v## is supposed to be a constant here. As stated in the question, in fact. This means you are not going to be able to use the symbol ##v## for ##dx/dt##.

...Oh. I feel stupid now.

a. velocity = dx/dt = v + kbebt
when t=0,
dx/dt = v + kb

b. acceleration = dv/dt = kb2ebt
when t = 1/b,
dv/dt = kb2e

Thank you!
 
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