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The discussion revolves around a problem involving blocks, torques, and wedges, specifically focusing on the application of Newton's laws of motion and the concept of torque. Participants are exploring how to account for frictional forces alongside torque in their analysis.

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  • The original poster attempts to connect Newton's second law for torque with the net forces acting on the system but struggles with integrating frictional forces. Some participants suggest drawing free body diagrams to clarify the forces involved, while others express confusion about how to represent the torques created by the wheel.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering links to similar concepts for additional context. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by free body diagrams, and questions remain regarding the correct representation of torques, especially when angles and inclines are involved.

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There appears to be uncertainty regarding the number of torques to consider and how to effectively sum forces and torques in the presence of friction. The original poster mentions that drawing free body diagrams has been confusing, indicating a potential gap in understanding the components involved.

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http://portfolio.iu.edu/whoblitz/problem2.PNG

I know Newton's second law for torque torquenet=I*alpha and regular old Fnet=m*a, but I don't see how they fit together here (how I can account for frictional forces and torque at the same time). Help appreciated, thanks :smile:
 
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Have you drawn a free body diagram and summed up all the forces in each direction?
 
My problem with that is I don't know what to put for the force of the torque(s
? one or two) created by the wheel.
 
Still not working out to even close to the right answer here and drawing a free body diagram isn't helping the situation as it is just confusing me more with force components, et. al.
 
Still isn't helping, I keep drawing the free body diagrams and getting wrong and different answers. After solving for the torque forces (tensions) in that example, does it make a difference that the second torque is at an angle on an incline?

What would the equation for the net torque even look like in this problem? Is there some easier way to do this than ugly free body diagrams?
 

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