Accidentally Discovering Something Mathematical: How to Publish?

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The discussion revolves around the process of publishing mathematical discoveries, particularly for individuals who may not have formal training in mathematics. Participants explore the challenges faced by someone who accidentally discovers a mathematical concept and seeks to publish their findings.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of a vague mathematical discovery and suggests that individuals should learn more about mathematics before attempting to publish.
  • Another participant describes the general process of submitting a manuscript to a mathematical journal, emphasizing the high standards required for publication.
  • There is mention of historical figures like Ramanujan and Hardy, suggesting that discussing discoveries with a local mathematics professor could be beneficial.
  • A participant raises concerns about the challenges amateurs face when trying to publish work that may not meet the stylistic and technical standards of academic journals.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the likelihood of an amateur making a significant mathematical discovery.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that publishing in a mathematical journal is a stringent process and that seeking guidance from knowledgeable individuals is advisable. However, there is disagreement regarding the feasibility of an amateur making a meaningful discovery and the vagueness of what constitutes a "mathematical discovery."

Contextual Notes

Participants note the high standards of mathematical journals and the potential difficulties for amateurs in meeting these standards. There is also a lack of clarity regarding what qualifies as a significant mathematical discovery.

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Hey,
This is a very random question.

Let's say, that a regular person who dosn't know very much about math just *HAPPENS* to stumble upon something mathematical and unheard off... and works a little bit on it...

Cases like these are not unheard off...many inventions and/or discoveries happened by accident.

So, if somebody happens to find something mathematical by accident and has no idea how to write it up in a proper publishable way...then how would the person get it published?

Do they just write it up as best as they could and submit it to a Journal?

See... I told you it was completely random!
 
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If you don't know much about math and "stumble upon something mathematical and unheard of" then you should (a) listen more carefully and (b) learn more about math and what others have done.

Also, your expression "something mathematical" is way too vague to be meaningful. Last week, I saw four digits in the closing Dow-Jones Industral Average that represented my telephone number in reverse. That's "something mathematical" but I'm surely not about to get it published or to even try.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate on your "discovery?"
 
Oh yeah... that's true...

Tide said:
Perhaps you would care to elaborate on your "discovery?"

I don't have a discovery, I was just asking out of general curiosity...

You are very right that if somebody happens to discover something new in mathematics is very unlikely...but I was just curious on how stuff gets published and out their...
 
I've never published in a (real) mathematical journal but I suppose it's similar to physics publications. Generally, you submit your paper to the editor and if he/she deems it suitable then the manuscript gets sent out to a number of referees for peer review. If they recommend publication then the paper will be published (page charges often apply).

However, your manuscript had better pass muster because the standards (technically, stylistically, etc.) are quite high. Your work will be judged by highly competent and knowledgeable people in the field who have little patience for amateurs "stumbling upon something mathematical and unheard of."
 
Probably the best thing such a person could do would be to discuss it with a local mathematics professor. (Ramanujan and Hardy come to mind- although I wouldn't say Hardy was "local" to Ramanujan!)
 
Tide said:
I've never published in a (real) mathematical journal but I suppose it's similar to physics publications. Generally, you submit your paper to the editor and if he/she deems it suitable then the manuscript gets sent out to a number of referees for peer review. If they recommend publication then the paper will be published (page charges often apply).

However, your manuscript had better pass muster because the standards (technically, stylistically, etc.) are quite high. Your work will be judged by highly competent and knowledgeable people in the field who have little patience for amateurs "stumbling upon something mathematical and unheard of."

wow... that is so complicated...

Let me give you an example.

Fermats Last theorem, 4 Colour Problem, and Goldbachs Conjunteure are problems amatures take on since they don't need a professional education in math.

Let's just say some amature solves one of these (i know FLT has been solved) for reall and it all makes perfect sense.

However, since he/she is an amature, the paper is not going to be highly sytlistic and will be missing a lot of requirements for it to be published in a journal.

So what would this individual do with his work? Who would he send it too for review?
 
rad,

It's not really all that complicated but it is stringent - and rightfully so!

Halls gave a really good suggestion above - discuss it with a local math prof - which, in my opinion, is far better than discussing it with strangers in an online chatroom.
 

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