Acid/base balancing question (given products)

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The discussion revolves around balancing chemical equations and writing net ionic equations for given products, specifically focusing on the compounds RbBr, NaCH3CO2, and Fe(ClO4)3. Participants express confusion about the requirements of the task, particularly regarding the use of acids and bases in the reactions.

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  • One participant requests guidance on balancing equations and identifying states for the given products.
  • Another participant explains the general structure of a reaction and provides an example of a balanced equation, emphasizing the breakdown into ionic equations.
  • A different participant shares an example involving the reaction of La(OH) with H2SO4, indicating that they must use an acid and a base in their own problem, which adds to their confusion.
  • One participant questions the cancellation of the bromide ions in the net ionic equation provided by another, suggesting that this may need further verification.
  • Another participant reiterates their confusion about balancing the equations and expresses a desire for additional help.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the task. There is no consensus on the correct approach to the problem, particularly concerning the use of acids and bases and the treatment of spectator ions.

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Participants mention specific examples and rules related to solubility and the behavior of strong acids and bases, but there are unresolved questions about the application of these concepts to the original problem.

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Students or individuals seeking assistance with balancing chemical equations and understanding net ionic equations, particularly in the context of acid-base reactions.

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I have a question and I don't even know where to begin. Perhaps someone can guide me.

For these products:
RbBr(aq)
NaCH3CO2(aq)
Fe(ClO4)3 (aq)

I need to write the balanced equation and the net ionic euqation for each of them. nd indicate their states (aq, s, l)... (s) is the precipitation one.

Please?!
 
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well, you are given products sooo...

you know a reaction consists of reactants and products right?

reactants ----> products

for example:
2Rb(s) + Br(2) (aq) ---- 2RbBr (aq)

(i hope you know what a diatomic molecule is? H, O, F, Br, I, Cl ... these elements cannot be free as a single atom)

but from that written equation we can breakdown the ionic equation...

2Rb+(s) + 2Br-(aq) ------ 2Rb+(aq) + 2Br-(aq) (RbBr breaks down because it is soluble...search
Solubility on wikipedia.org if you're not familiar with the rules)

Thus the net ionic equation (where spectator ions cancel out):

2Rb+(s) ----- 2Rb+(aq) (2Br cancel because they're spectator ions) (Rb don't cancel b/c they're in different states)

^^^Here's your answer for part 1...You only need to see it once for these kinds of problems, but if you need more help PM or post here
 
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Example: How can Lao(SOo), be produced? Ans. From the reaction of La(OH), (base) with HrSOo
(acid)
Molecularz 2La(OH), (s) + 3 HrSO4 (aq) -+ Lq(SOa), (aq) + 6 HrO (l)
Net ionic: La(OH), (s) + 3 H. (aq) -+ Lf* (aq) + 3 H2O (l) (Note lowest whole #'s in equation)

I was given that example... So I actually have to use the acid and base in the reaction. That is why I am confused.
 
^^^hey by the way, i just remembered an argument a few days ago about somethin on the question i helpled u with. I'm not sure the 2Br cancels out...you might want to check for that!
 
lorka150 said:
Example: How can Lao(SOo), be produced? Ans. From the reaction of La(OH), (base) with HrSOo
(acid)
Molecularz 2La(OH), (s) + 3 HrSO4 (aq) -+ Lq(SOa), (aq) + 6 HrO (l)
Net ionic: La(OH), (s) + 3 H. (aq) -+ Lf* (aq) + 3 H2O (l) (Note lowest whole #'s in equation)

I was given that example... So I actually have to use the acid and base in the reaction. That is why I am confused.

hmmmm that's weird...it might have been a mistake by the teacher/prof. I can see that H2SO4 breaks down (because it is a strong acid) and the LaOH is insoluble because of the solubility rule. Other than that i cannot understand the balancing part of this question--for some reason! i hope someone comes in here to save you
 

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