Adding Exponentials: Solving \frac{e^{2iz}+2+e^{-2iz}}{4}=\frac{2}{4}

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The discussion revolves around the equation \(\frac{e^{2iz}+2+e^{-2iz}}{4}=\frac{2}{4}\), which is part of a larger context involving trigonometric identities and exponential functions. Participants are exploring the relationship between these expressions and questioning how the exponentials interact in the context of proving the identity \(\sin^{2}z + \cos^{2}z = 1\).

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  • Participants are examining the validity of the equation and questioning the cancellation of exponentials. Some are attempting to derive the relationship between sine and cosine using their exponential forms, while others are checking the correctness of the steps involved in the proof.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a focus on clarifying misunderstandings regarding the manipulation of the exponential terms and their contributions to the overall expression.

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Some participants note discrepancies in the original problem statement and the expected results, particularly regarding the handling of signs in the denominators and the simplification of terms. There is an emphasis on ensuring that all steps are accounted for in the derivation process.

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How does [itex]\frac{e^{2iz}+2+e^{-2iz}}{4}=\frac{2}{4}[/itex]?

This is part of something more complex, but this should be enough information. I do not see how those exponentials cancel with each other to leave the [itex]\frac{2}{4}[/itex].

Thanks
 
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All I can say is that [itex](e^{2iz}+ 2+ e^{-2iz})/4[/itex] is NOT equal to "2/4"! For example, if z= 0, the left side is (1+ 2+ 1)/4= 4/4= 1, not 2/4. And since normally you would write "1/2" rather than "2/4", I seems clear to me that you are missing something. What is true is that [itex]e^{2iz}+ 2+ e^{-2iz}= (e^{iz}+ e^{-iz})^2[/itex]. Does that help?
 
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Thanks. I knew I wasn't that bad at math to not know how to add exponentials.

It's from an example in my book. Here is the whole thing:

Prove that [itex]sin^{2}z+cos^{2}z=1[/itex]

[itex]sin^{2}z=(\frac{e^{iz}-e^{-iz}}{2i})^{2}=\frac{e^{2iz}-2+e^{-2iz}}{-4}[/itex]

[itex]cos^{2}z=(\frac{e^{iz}+e^{-iz}}{2})^{2}=\frac{e^{2iz}+2+e^{-2iz}}{4}[/itex]

[itex]sin^{2}z+cos^{2}z=\frac{2}{4}+\frac{2}{4}=1[/itex]
 
leroyjenkens said:
Thanks. I knew I wasn't that bad at math to not know how to add exponentials.

It's from an example in my book. Here is the whole thing:

Prove that [itex]sin^{2}z+cos^{2}z=1[/itex]

[itex]sin^{2}z=(\frac{e^{iz}-e^{-iz}}{2i})^{2}=\frac{e^{2iz}-2+e^{-2iz}}{-4}[/itex]

[itex]cos^{2}z=(\frac{e^{iz}+e^{-iz}}{2})^{2}=\frac{e^{2iz}+2+e^{-2iz}}{4}[/itex]

[itex]sin^{2}z+cos^{2}z=\frac{2}{4}+\frac{2}{4}=1[/itex]

Are you still in a doubt? Check the expansion of ##\sin^2z## in the first step, there's a minus sign in the denominator.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Are you still in a doubt? Check the expansion of ##\sin^2z## in the first step, there's a minus sign in the denominator.

I just tried multiplying the top and bottom of the [itex]sin^{2}z[/itex] expansion by -1 and then adding the two together, I get [itex]\frac{4}{4}[/itex], which is correct. The example makes it look like the exponentials are canceled before the addition of the two. How did they do that?

Thanks.
 
leroyjenkens said:
I just tried multiplying the top and bottom of the [itex]sin^{2}z[/itex] expansion by -1

What do you get when you do that?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
What do you get when you do that?

I got [itex]\frac{-e^{2iz}+2-e^{-2iz}}{4}[/itex] and then I added that with the cosine expansion and got 1. But the exponentials didn't disappear until I added the sine and cosine, at which point they cancelled. But in the book, they were gone before the addition of sine and cosine. How did they do that?

Thanks.
 
leroyjenkens said:
But in the book, they were gone before the addition of sine and cosine.

They were never gone before the addition. Try to add them yourself.
 

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