Advice for 14-Year-Old Pursuing Physics After High School

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The discussion revolves around advice for a 14-year-old interested in pursuing physics after high school, focusing on foundational knowledge in mathematics and physics, college preparation, and the nature of physics research. Participants share insights on studying calculus, trigonometry, and the importance of understanding mathematical concepts in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a strong foundation in algebra and trigonometry is necessary before tackling calculus.
  • There are recommendations to focus on studying mathematics rather than physics initially, emphasizing the importance of mathematical rigor in understanding physics.
  • One participant mentions the potential misconceptions that can arise from reading popular physics books and advises caution in interpreting their content.
  • Several participants propose that the young learner should consider reading about proofs and trigonometry to prepare for calculus.
  • There is a suggestion that an interest in everyday physical phenomena could indicate a future in experimental physics.
  • One participant shares a resource for calculus study, indicating that basic calculus concepts like derivatives are manageable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of a solid mathematical background before pursuing calculus, but there are varying opinions on the timing and approach to studying calculus itself. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the young learner.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the necessity of prior knowledge in trigonometry and algebra before studying calculus, and there are differing views on the impact of popular physics literature on understanding the field.

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Hello,I am fairly interested in understanding aspects of the fields of theoretical of experimental physics, I plan to pursue this goal after high school. However I lack any diverse knowledge on the topics of college acceptance. I am currently 14 years old, but I feel Its never to early to start paving my path. I have been reading many books by theoretical physicists such as Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking and plan to read many more over the summer. I most likely be taking calculus in two years and wish to learn the initials of this as well this summer.

Can anyone provide me with advice?
Thank you
 
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You might not have done enough algebra/trig to really study calculus. Don't be 'afraid' to study some trig/algebra if you need it. However, I think you should try to see if you can handle some basic calculus.

tl;dr -> study calculus.
 
Study mathematics, not physics. While is it important to understand the conceptual ideas, the more rigorous part of physics (imo) is the necessity to understand math, be able to read it, and have it mean something.
 
Thank you for your advice.
 
I would also suggest reading some trigonometry. And while you're at it, you may also find sphere trigonometry quite fun. Also, you might want to read a book on proofs, knowing these soon enough will be helpful.

I think you should not be taking calculus immediately. First you need a lot of experience before you can handle calculus. Brush up trigonometry and proofs (optional, but it makes your life easier), and then start calculus...

And it will also be necessary to say that the pop physics books you're reading really give a false image of physics. Real physics research is completely different. I don't say you should stop reading these, but you should be aware of it so that you don't get misconceptions about physics. It is very likely that you will find physics an math boring at first. You'll need some knowledge before it even starts to be remotely interesting...
 
micromass said:
I would also suggest reading some trigonometry. And while you're at it, you may also find sphere trigonometry quite fun. Also, you might want to read a book on proofs, knowing these soon enough will be helpful.

I think you should not be taking calculus immediately. First you need a lot of experience before you can handle calculus. Brush up trigonometry and proofs (optional, but it makes your life easier), and then start calculus...

And it will also be necessary to say that the pop physics books you're reading really give a false image of physics. Real physics research is completely different. I don't say you should stop reading these, but you should be aware of it so that you don't get misconceptions about physics. It is very likely that you will find physics an math boring at first. You'll need some knowledge before it even starts to be remotely interesting...


Thank you, I will will most likely look up the trig functions of spheres. I only posted calculus because I will most likely skip trig for pre calculus in two years.
 
If your precalculus is anything like my sister's and mine, it'll include trigonometry without all the unnecessary nonsense.
 
General_Sax said:
You might not have done enough algebra/trig to really study calculus. Don't be 'afraid' to study some trig/algebra if you need it. However, I think you should try to see if you can handle some basic calculus.

tl;dr -> study calculus.

By basic calculus do you mean derivatives and such because that is quite simple that's all I have been doing
 
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You can probably tackle the applications of a derivative section if you'd like.
 
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If you are interested in phenomena right around you like the cream swirling in a cup of coffee or the corners of paper curling in humid weather, you could be an experimentalist. But if you read about the life of Richard Feynmann, you see that he was also interested in the world immediately around him. For example, he learned to repair radios when he was a kid. I think that having interest in ordinary phenomena is a good indicator of whether you have a future in physics.
 
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i am very interested in physical phenomena, Thank you for the website.
 

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