Advice Needed on Career in Physics & Astrophysics

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The discussion revolves around career advice for a student interested in pursuing a career in physics and astrophysics, particularly focusing on the path following a Ph.D. Participants explore various aspects of academic and research opportunities in the field, as well as the differences between theoretical and experimental physics.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a strong desire to pursue a career in astrophysics and seeks advice on what to look for in American Ph.D. programs.
  • Another participant shares their own uncertainty about post-Ph.D. career options and references a related thread for further insights.
  • There is mention of interest in research careers with NASA, with one participant acknowledging this as a childhood dream.
  • Concerns are raised about potential job openings at NASA due to budget cuts, suggesting a need for caution in pursuing that path.
  • A participant advises against prematurely dismissing experimental physics, suggesting that it can involve analyzing real data rather than traditional lab work, especially in astronomy.
  • It is noted that many professionals at NASA are experimentalists and engineers, which may influence the type of work available in that environment.
  • Participants encourage keeping an open mind about different areas of physics during undergraduate studies to avoid limiting future opportunities.
  • Discussion includes the notion that pursuing a Ph.D. may lead to postdoctoral positions, with the goal of eventually securing a full staff position at a university.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of experimental physics versus theoretical physics, with some advocating for a broader exploration of both areas during undergraduate studies. There is no consensus on the best path forward after obtaining a Ph.D., highlighting the uncertainty in career trajectories within the field.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of their current knowledge regarding the American education system and the job market, particularly in relation to NASA and other research opportunities. There are also unresolved assumptions about the nature of experimental physics and its relevance to astrophysics.

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Okay, so I really enjoy Physics. I love everything about it. I'm 110% certain I want to go into Physics career-wise. My favourite part of Physics of course is Astrophysics. I'm an English student currently, but bare with me here. (Just clarification here, I mean student based in England, not studying English) (:

Currently I'm taking 4 A Levels, Physics, Maths, Further Maths and Chemistry. I'm currently sitting on a conditional offer at Oxford university to do a Physics 4 year MPhys course. (From this point on it's all assumptions on if I get in.) Alongside the MPhys I'm going to be doing a 3 year Mathematics in Physics BSc. After University I'm planning on going to America to complete up to a Ph.D in Astrophysics. The main thing I need advice on is what should I be looking at in America for this Ph.D? (I'm not sure about the American Education system) Also, where should I go from getting a Ph.D? Is there anything I should be looking to learn beforehand to help me in the future?

Just as a side note, I'm very into theoretical Astrophysics and research. I'm not too good at experimental Physics, at least in a career view. I love working with numbers and problems, I find it much more relaxing to solve an equation or puzzle than, say, reading.

Thanks for reading through this if you did, and thanks for any advice you can give me.

(I realize that this is about Academic help, but it's mostly for what I do after getting a Ph.D, career-wise. I apologise if this IS in the wrong place, or if a mod feels it belongs elsewhere. Feel free to move it if I have wrongly posted this.)
 
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So you want to know what one does after getting a PhD in physics? I'm asking the same question, except that I'll be completing my PhD soon. You may want to check out the following thread where I and some others are asking this question of the more experienced physicists:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=391553

Not trying to dissuade you from your chosen career path, but more information never hurts.
 
Thanks for the reply, I've actually already read through most of the threads in the section already. I'm looking for options as to what I can do really, recently I've been looking at research careers with NASA. (Yeah, yeah, childhood dream or whatever :P I'm actually serious about it though :P)
 
Probably you won't find too many job openings at NASA if Obama guts the budget. Sorry to disappoint.
 
Calluuuum said:
Currently I'm taking 4 A Levels, Physics, Maths, Further Maths and Chemistry.

Just as a side note, I'm very into theoretical Astrophysics and research.

I'm not too good at experimental Physics, at least in a career view.

Well, you are still in high school. I wouldn't yet commit yourself to the view that you 'aren't good' at experimental physics since it almost certainly isn't what you think it is. I did something like that when I left high school, because I enjoyed math much more than lab experiments so naturally assumed I'd prefer theory.

Experimental work, however, (depending on the field) can correspond to almost no work in a lab. In astronomy, for instance, experimental work is just about using real data. A solar astronomy department that I have worked at would consider themselves all experimentalists, they take and analyse solar data and try to explain it. It can be as closely tied into the proposed data behind the theory as you want.

On a related note: you want to work for NASA - from the people I know that work there, they are composed almost entirely of experimentalists and engineers. If you want to do work like space shuttle, satellite design etc. then there are a number of companies you can work for in Europe, too. Selex Galileo have a number of bases in Britain, as to EADS Astrium.

My point is, the distinguishing differences between theory and experiment are not as obvious as they first seem, and you're a long-time off deciding which one you want to do.

You have done well to get yourself a place at Oxford, for the time being I would just focus on your undergraduate and keep an open mind re: the kind of physics you want to end up in. That way, you're less likely to avoid or dislike courses simply because they're not related to astronomy (if you make a mental commitment, then perhaps you'll find yourself picking courses you don't like because they'll 'give you a head start' or so - doing this in the first year or two of undergraduate isn't a good idea, á mon avis.)

If you put the work into your undergraduate, you'll find a PhD somewhere if you want to. What you do after that depends on the field you want to work in. If you decide that you do want to continue in astrophysics, particularly theory, you'll probably look for further research positions - a Post Doc. Normally one will take two of these fixed term roles, and if all goes well, attempt to get a full-staff position at a university.
 

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