Algebra word problem: finding the distance

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The discussion revolves around solving an algebra word problem related to finding the distance of a circuit based on different speeds for walking, riding, and driving. Participants explore various equations and approaches to derive the distance, while addressing the need for clarity in the problem's conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial equation for distance based on speeds and time, but expresses difficulty in proceeding further.
  • Another participant suggests drawing a diagram and proposes a set of equations relating distances and speeds, questioning what happens when these equations are summed.
  • A later reply reiterates the summation of the equations and derives a relationship involving the total distance and the reciprocals of the speeds.
  • Further contributions confirm the derived equation and prompt solving for distance, but one participant notes that this results in letters rather than a numerical answer, referencing a book's answer of 60 miles.
  • Another participant identifies a misunderstanding regarding the units of time in the problem, leading to a revised system of equations that ultimately yields the distance as 60 miles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem, with some agreeing on the derived equations while others question the necessity of summing them. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the reasoning behind the steps taken and the interpretation of the problem's conditions.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the units of time (minutes versus hours), which affects the formulation of the equations. This highlights the importance of carefully interpreting the problem's parameters.

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Hello! Please help continue solving tye problem I got stuck.

This is my attemptlet $d=$ length of the circuit
$\frac{60}{a}$mph --- speed for walking
$\frac{60}{b}$mph ----speed for riding
$\frac{60}{c}$mph ---- speed for driving

$d = \frac{60}{a}t_{1}+ \frac{60}{b}t_{2} + \frac{60}{c}t_{3}$

From here I cannot continue. Kindly help me. Thanks!
 

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I would begin this problem by drawing a diagram:

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Now, what we want to find is the distance $d$ where:

$$d=x+y+z$$

Using the information given in the problem, we may write:

$$\frac{x}{a}+\frac{y}{b}+\frac{z}{c}=c+b-a$$

$$\frac{y}{a}+\frac{z}{b}+\frac{x}{c}=a+c-b$$

$$\frac{z}{a}+\frac{x}{b}+\frac{y}{c}=b+a-c$$

What do you get when you add these 3 equations?
 

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MarkFL said:
I would begin this problem by drawing a diagram:
Now, what we want to find is the distance $d$ where:

$$d=x+y+z$$

Using the information given in the problem, we may write:

$$\frac{x}{a}+\frac{y}{b}+\frac{z}{c}=c+b-a$$

$$\frac{y}{a}+\frac{z}{b}+\frac{x}{c}=a+c-b$$

$$\frac{z}{a}+\frac{x}{b}+\frac{y}{c}=b+a-c$$

What do you get when you add these 3 equations?

This is what I get

$\left(x+y+z\right)\left(\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}\right)=a+b+c$
 
NotaMathPerson said:
This is what I get

$\left(x+y+z\right)\left(\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}\right)=a+b+c$

Yes, good! (Yes)

I chose to write this as:

$$d\left(\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}\right)=a+b+c$$

Now, solve for $d$. :)
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, good! (Yes)

I chose to write this as:

$$d\left(\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}\right)=a+b+c$$

Now, solve for $d$. :)

I thought of it too. But solving for d only gives me letters. In my book the answer is 60 miles. Why is that?

And can you explain why do we need to add the 3 eqns? Thanks.
 
NotaMathPerson said:
I thought of it too. But solving for d only gives me letters. In my book the answer is 60 miles. Why is that?

And can you explain why do we need to add the 3 eqns? Thanks.

I didn't read the question thoroughly (regarding the 3 velocities being given in minutes instead of hours)...what we get instead is the system:

$$\frac{ax}{60}+\frac{by}{60}+\frac{cz}{60}=c+b-a$$

$$\frac{ay}{60}+\frac{bz}{60}+\frac{cx}{60}=a+c-b$$

$$\frac{az}{60}+\frac{bx}{60}+\frac{cy}{60}=b+a-c$$

Now when we add the equations, we obtain:

$$\frac{d}{60}(a+b+c)=a+b+c\implies d=60$$
 

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