Alpha particle deviation from gold foil (Rutherford Scattering)

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of alpha particles in relation to gold nuclei, specifically focusing on the conditions under which deviations from Rutherford scattering occur. The problem involves kinetic energy calculations and the implications of increasing gold foil thickness.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the kinetic energy required for alpha particles to approach the gold nucleus and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy. There are attempts to clarify the constraints of the problem, particularly regarding the use of external data.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to approach the problem without additional data. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between energy and distance of closest approach, but no consensus has been reached on the exact method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the restriction of using only the provided information, which influences their reasoning and approach to the problem.

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1. Homework Statement
The alpha particles used by Rutherford had a kinetic energy of 7.7 MeV and, for a head-on collision would get to within a distance of 3×10-14m of the centre of the gold nucleus. However the actual radius of a gold nucleus is approximately 7×10-15m.
2. Homework Equations

(a)Without the use of any other data, including physical constants, calculate the energy at which Alpha particles would start to show a deviation from pure Rutherford scattering off gold.
(b)As the thickness of the gold foil is increased, with the Alpha particle energy remaining at
7.7MeV, a deviation from the thin foil experiment is also observed. Explain
 
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attempt at solution?

for part (a) you could try and figure out how much kinetic energy an alpha particle would need to get all the way to the edge of the nucleus in a head-on collision. For higher energies than this the alpha would penetrate the nucleus and, presumably, the scattered distrubtion of alpha particle would deviate from the rutherford case.
 
Sorry I should have put down my attempt. Ya I was going to try that but in the question it said I can't use any information other than the stuff provided.
 
yeah... so...

you don't need anything other than what was given. I think you can just use the relation between kinetic and potential energy to show that the distance of closest approach is inversely proportional to the kinetic energy. Use the given information to determine the proportionality constant.
 

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