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Am i good enough to get into u of mich.?

  1. Feb 9, 2010 #1
    wat are my chances to get into U of M physics program, or engineering programs
    GPA: 4.1 (weighted), 3.95(unweighted)
    ACT: im only a soph. atm, and i took ACT at end of fresh year and got a 26
    AP: next year im taking AP physics, AP gov, and AP statistics (talked to all my teachers for those, my ap gov will be a blow off cause its just an easy class, and my ap phys and stats teachers said i can get an a no prob)
    In state: yes
    SAT: never took
    Job: yes, and its a math tutor (through a company) so it will look nice

    how good are u of m's phys, and eng programs?
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  3. Feb 9, 2010 #2
    If you get your ACT score up you'll be fine.
  4. Feb 9, 2010 #3
    Why limit yourself to just U of M? Why not look at better schools that are out of state? Your scores and class loads look good enough to get in to Georgia Tech (excellent engineering school), Purdue, Penn State, etc....likely with scholarships. If you got a 26 as a freshman, I would venture you could almost anywhere pretty easily, especially if you do well on the AP Exams, and keep up your GPA.

    In my opinion, U of M is good, but it would not be my first choice, even if it is in-state tuition. There are just simply better schools out there. Keep your options open, you certainly have a lot of potential. Good luck...
  5. Feb 10, 2010 #4
    Um ok, whether you have a job or not really doesn't matter for undergrad admissions. Extracurricular activities (other than working) are far more important, as they are meant to demonstrate interest. I'm pretty sure UM would like to see some extracurriculars, and it's not too late to start. They don't have to be math/science related, but you should actually try to enjoy them.

    Also, I'd be a bit wary if your physics teacher really told you that you could simply get an A in the class. If you're even thinking about doing physics as a major, you'll want a teacher who can teach you the basics well, not one who will guarantee you an A.

    Note there is a huge difference between being a physics major and an engineering major. Obviously you are far from the point where you actually have to make a decision between the two (or something else), but this is still pretty important. As Wellesley mentioned, UMichigan does not have that great of an engineering. However, its physics program is top notch. More importantly, it's math program is VERY good, and in fact it actually recruits exceptional math students. Hence I wouldn't be very surprised if many of the physics students are not only very good at math, but also doing a major/minor in pure mathematics. This means that if you're thinking about majoring in physics at UM, you'll need to start liking the idea of doing lots of mathematics. Regardless of what you do, try to take AP Calculus by your senior year and any higher math courses available to you if you can.

    For engineering, I would suggest you learn some computer programming. You'll likely have to use MATLAB at some point in the future, and it helps to know say, java programming beforehand because then you'll be much more efficient if you have a programming task in MATLAB. That's really all the advice I have for now.
  6. Feb 10, 2010 #5
    no no no, by i can easily get an A, i mean that i have the ability to get an A, me and my physics teacher talk all the time about it. i currently am self teaching myself Griffiths EM, and go to her if i need help. its not that its an easy class, its just i wont have a problem.
  7. Feb 10, 2010 #6
    the problem with that is, my parents (mainly my mother) is over controlling and doesn't want me to leave the state. id love to go to a different college, and we have the financial resources for out of state, its just.... im not exactly sure, but i cant leave, and i assume u of m is my best choice than.
  8. Feb 11, 2010 #7
    No matter what, you also shouldn't just limit yourself to applying to one school. You should look into what graduate programs or employment recent high-achieving students have entered (look at the the UM physics department awards page and then google the students' names + physics, since they don't seem to have a "recent alumni" page) and see what you think of that. And you should of course do the same for other programs you consider... and VISIT! Check out what research opportunities undergraduates have in the department. Not only does program quality matter -- it's often about achieving a good match.

    Apply to a few (within reason) "reach" schools, and a few "for sure" schools. Then see where the chips land. After you get offers, revisit places where you get in (sometimes in doing so departments will try to sweeten an offer with extra scholarship money if you're considered the university offer is low). Then make your decision.
  9. Feb 11, 2010 #8
    i will certainly keep that in mind, thanks for the advice :)
  10. Feb 11, 2010 #9
    I got into the college of engineering...

    GPA: 3.5 (Unweighted)
    ACT: 30 (Math: 32, Sci: 34)
    SAT: N/A
    2 AP classes this year, Physics & Chem. No other APs.
    I'm in state.
    Working part-time for 4 years. Competed in sports outside of school. No other extra-curriculars.

    Hopefully that was helpful in some way. :D
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