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[Skyhunter]

While those organizations do play a role they're hardly the most powerfull forces today. Organizations like PNAC deserve considerably more credit than the trilateral commission or bilderberg meetings.

Ever hear of the Carlyle group?

http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

 

[kat]

The lack of a response and the tendency to attempt to band together with an identity, who has said nothing but made an irrational judgment, displays the mental barriers of even intelligent individuals. Your inability to see the possibility is what you and others should question. You may have never lived in a major city or participated in the business world enough to see the landscape to grasp the concepts that I have described, but I"m sure you remember that Martha Stewart had to go to jail for INSIDER TRADING.

Uhhh, Martha didn't go to jail for insider trading! In fact she was not even indicted for Insider Trading. She WAS charged with conspiracy, obstructing justice and making false statements. Erm..pretty much the same acts that Clinton was guilty of

 

[Jonny_trigonometry]

Wow, you are one of them! I honestly didn't know.

What do you mean by this?

 

[Orwell's Ghost]

All you could ever want to know about this topic

This topic really is new world order type stuff. A little lesson regarding the little pyramid on the back of the dollar. It isn't a true pyramid, it is a trapezoid, which is supposed to be a shape with great power. The little triangle thingy at the top with the eye is just to give the illusion of a pyramid. Indeed, the eye is an illuminati symbol. I have read rituals which involve trapezoids, but are written in german and Wilhelm Reich was into that sort of thing. I'm german-american, but by no means am I a nazi. They also incorporate negative-ionization of a trapezoid shaped chamber in which to perform their incantation. Supposedly this ritual was a type of spell casting ritual. Doesn't seem to have worked out too well for Hitler though. The name of the ritual is "Die elektrischen Vorspiele" and could there be links between the third reich and the CFR? maybe, but I wouldn't know. The following link gives you the history and purpose behind most of the groups of which you all are speaking about. Unfortunately for hard-line nationalists, the groups are internationalist in nature with the power going to few in the "inner-circle". Hmmm.

For all the information about the founders, members and supporters past and present, you should try this link, it is well worth the reading... You may be surprised at what you find. Truly new world order stuff. If you're into that sort of thing, this is definitely your bag, baby. Not to be read by those with heart conditions or wooden legs. (you may want to rip off your wooden leg to wack yourself silly, I know I did)

http://watch.pair.com/FreedomHouse.html

The above linked webpage has everything you every wanted to know about most of the groups in this discussion (CFR, RIIA, Trilat. Comm., Freedom House, Skull/Bones, Bilderberg, etc.), including the founders of these groups, their roots, some history and their founders' vision for the world... and so much more.

It should be noted:
The Trilateral Commission was created by David Rockefeller and CFR member Zbigniew Brezinski.
The founders of Freedom House established the United Nations and their board (FH's board) is dominated by a majority of CFR members.
Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) should be included in this list. Definately read the portion about Anthony Lake and the IPS as well as The House Of Lord section. You'll like what you see, or maybe not. I wasn't surprised, but that's me.
SORRY SMURF!, I didn't use the "word". Are you proud of me? I'm working on it. Isn't that just smurfy?

 

[Jonny_trigonometry]

So basically you're saying that I think I'm better than I really am?

... WHAT? That doesn't make any sense!

1. If you possesses most of the money in the stock market, any decrease will hurt you more than anyone else, because YOU OWN MOST OF IT!

2. Hindsight has nothing to do with the stock market crash! Once it started people panicked and started selling, that increased the rate of decline. It started because someone said to themselves "Hey! This can't keep going up forever, so I think I'll cut my profits and get out while it's safe" Eventually enough people sold enough stocks in 1 day that the stock market stopped rising. When it stopped rising some people got scared and started to sell. Then it started going down, so more people got really scared and they sold... See how that works? You don't need to have a degree in economics to figure it out, it's basic economics and history today. It wasn't caused by any conspiracy. It was inevitable.

You just haven't thought this through, it may take a while, but put some thought into it, try to lay down and look at the big picture. I never said you personnaly had all that money anyways but i guess it doesn't really matter, I said you were the commander of thousands of loyal followers with large ammounts of money. With your knowledge of the market, you should be able to figure out that your loyal followers don't have to lose any money (but even if they did, you'd tell the others that made money to reimberse them for their efforts). Tell some of them to sell short (the ones that don't have any invested), and tell the one's that are invested to sell and immediatly buy gold and wait for the dollar to be devalued by FDR, then buy stocks again...

 

[Jonny_trigonometry]

ok, well I just checked the gold prices for those times and I think they would've gone up around 1928-29, and back down later, but they stayed at about 20 in 28-29, then went down to 17 in 1931, then up to 24 in 1932... I don't think the above theory would fit in too well with these prices over time unless the gold was already acquired over a longer period (rather than selling stock and immediatly buying gold), and then mostly sold all at once in 1931. Ok, so they prolly didn't immediatly buy gold, but they could've maybe sold their invested stock and then immediatly sold short with that money (because they knew more investors would be selling) to make more stocks further decrease and thus make money from it.

basically, if you think of money as energy and apply the laws of thermodynamics, then all that value in the market had to go somewhere. It didn't just disappear from everybody's (non-masons, aka "outsiders") bank accounts and investments, it was moved somewhere else outside the stock market. Maybe the best way to do this is to invest in an entirely different country's stock market to help mask (launder) the flow of money/energy. A lot of it could've been put into construction projects that were started years before, or anything really. It could have been routed to switzerland, and then taken by the nazi's later on...

 

[outsider]

Uhhh, Martha didn't go to jail for insider trading! In fact she was not even indicted for Insider Trading. She WAS charged with conspiracy, obstructing justice and making false statements. Erm..pretty much the same acts that Clinton was guilty of

haha.. your post as it relates to this discussion is really irrelevant... but i will entertain you...

your post was just technicalities... like a lot of people who live by this system, you confuse the actual act vs. what was pinned.

What wrong Martha actually did vs. what she served time for are 2 different things that manifested from the same series of intentions and actions.

She just got a discounted sentence because there was a rip in the cloth. Admit it, we all know that. So don't be cute *smirk at your eye roll* That has little bearing to the point I was trying to make.

Maybe some of the people out there are too naive and innocent to understand what I'm trying to say. Naive & Innocent do not refer to age / sex, as some people my age are still naive.

 

[Art]

Uhhh, Martha didn't go to jail for insider trading! In fact she was not even indicted for Insider Trading. She WAS charged with conspiracy, obstructing justice and making false statements. Erm..pretty much the same acts that Clinton was guilty of

What she did was illegal insider trading. She wouldn't be indicted on insider trading per se because insider trading is a generic term and is not necessarily illegal. It is perfectly routine and legal for officers, directors and employees to engage in insider trading by buying and selling stock in their own companies however if they commit illegal acts whilst doing so they will be charged in relation to their specific illegal activities.