Amusement Park Ride - Angular Speed

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the angular speed of a ride in an amusement park where cars are suspended from cables attached to rotating arms. The setup includes specific measurements for the length of the cables, the distance from the axis of rotation, and the angle at which the cables swing during operation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the total radius and the relationship between tension, mass, and gravitational force. There are attempts to derive equations for angular speed based on the forces acting on the ride.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different equations and approaches to find the correct angular speed. Some have suggested separating vertical and horizontal forces to clarify the calculations. There is acknowledgment of errors in previous attempts, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of limited attempts remaining for the problem, indicating a pressure to arrive at a correct solution. Participants are also expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the need for further clarification.

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Homework Statement



In an amusement park rocket ride, cars are suspended from L = 4.37-m cables attached to rotating arms at a distance of d = 6.09 m from the axis of rotation. The cables swing out at an angle of θ = 53.9° when the ride is operating. What is the angular speed of rotation?

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Homework Equations



(mv^2)/r = mg
wr(angular speed) = v

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, so first I calculated the total radius which was 6.09 m + (sin53.9)(4.37) and got a radius of 9.62 m. Then, since there is no normal force, the tension is equal to mg, thus making mv^2/r = mg. Masses cancel out and I got v^2/r = g I got a velocity of 9.7145 m/s. Using the angular speed equation : wr = v. For angular speed I got 1.01 deg / sec. Computer says this is wrong, what did I do wrong?
 
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the tension is equal to mg, thus making mv^2/r = mg
Errors here! You must separate the vertical forces from the horizontal ones.
The tension is partly vertical and partly horizontal, so you'll need sine and cosine.
Write two separate equations for the horizontal and vertical forces.
I expect you will have two unknowns to find with your two equations, though you are probably only interested in one of them.
 
I only have one try left, and I'm almost positive that I use the velocity of the x component which utilizes the equation : v^2/r = tan53.9(g)

Is that correct?

I got angular speed of 1.18 deg/s which appears to still be wrong...sigh what am I doing wrong now?
 
v^2/r = tan53.9(g) looks pretty good, though I have no idea how you could get it without separating the vertical and horizontal forces.

It is 1.18 radians/s for the angular velocity.
 
Okay, I guess I'll have to ask my teach about it because 1.18 radians/s is wrong :(
 
Thanks for the help though!
 

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