Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

An electrolysis reaction: Silver electrode and cathode, Rochelle Salt solution

  1. Nov 7, 2012 #1
    Hi

    I'm new to the forum, so first I want to say hello to everyone.

    I have been interested in Colloidal Silver lately, and I have produced it with electrolysis in distilled water with NaCl as an electrolyte. I have used a Silver electrode and cathode for both of these experiments.

    I realized I had a batch of Rochelle Salt (Potasium Sodium Tartrate) and I decided to try using that in aqueous solution as an electrolyte to see what I would get.

    With table salt I got a yellowish cloudy solution that I believe was Silver Chloride, however with Rochelle Salt I got a cloudy white solution, that I believe is Silver Tartrate C4H4Ag2O6 and MAYBE NaOH and KOH, but I've looked all over the internet to try to determine if this is the case, and I haven't had much luck.

    I just wondered if anyone could help me figure out what I've got here. Thanks in advance for any help!

    -Justin Hall
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Nov 7, 2012 #2

    chemisttree

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member

    Isolate some of the white powder and leave it in the sun for a few hours. If it changes color, it's silver-something, very likely silver tartrate. You might see if it dissolves in aqueous ammonium hydroxide and check the optical rotation of the solution to confirm tartrate.
     
  4. Nov 8, 2012 #3
    Ok, thanks for the help. It will probably take quite a while to evaporate the solution as it is mainly water, but maybe I can check the optical rotation while it is still in solution. I have noticed that when I have the liquid in a dark room and shine a light through it the beam of light shifts red as it passes through more and more solution.

    At any rate, thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to post my results, even if I have to wait a few weeks for the water to evaporate from the solution.
     
  5. Nov 23, 2012 #4
    I just wanted to let anyone concerned know that this reaction appears to have been successful. As the water evaporated much of the eggshell colored suspension fell out of suspension and collected at the bottom of the dish I was desiccating it in. Once it had all collected at the bottom of the container, I placed the dish outside and I let the sun strike it for a while. I came back a couple hours later and it was a very dark, almost black grey color.

    It appears I was able to synthesize a photoreactive silver salt from electrolysis with silver anode and cathode in a rochelle salt solution. I am pretty sure it's Silver Tartrate, but it's hard to be 100% certain, as there are other photoreactive silver salts. I don't think it was silver nitrate because I didn't use nitric acid, and the only source of nitrogen would have been the air in contact with the solution.

    I'll post an update if I am able to determine positively that I created C4H4Ag2O6, but I'm pretty sure that's what I got.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook




Similar Discussions: An electrolysis reaction: Silver electrode and cathode, Rochelle Salt solution
  1. Salts in solution (Replies: 33)

  2. Silver as an electrode (Replies: 2)

Loading...