Analysis of Convergence for Series a) and b)

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of two series: a) $\displaystyle \sum\frac{1}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$ and b) $\displaystyle\sum\frac{(-1)^n}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$. Participants explore various approaches to analyze these series, including the application of Stirling's formula and the Leibniz test for alternating series.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that series a) diverges based on an approximation using Stirling's formula, comparing it to a divergent series.
  • Another participant argues that series b) converges by applying the Leibniz test for alternating series, suggesting that the series behaves similarly to a known convergent series.
  • A participant presents a logarithmic analysis of series a) but later acknowledges an error in their reasoning regarding inequalities involving integrals and sums.
  • There is a discussion about the approximation of terms in series a) and whether they can be considered equal for large n, leading to further questioning of the correctness of previous claims.
  • Participants engage in correcting and refining their earlier statements, indicating uncertainty about the convergence of series a) and the validity of their methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the convergence of the two series, with some supporting divergence for series a) and convergence for series b), while others question the validity of their approaches and results. The discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their reasoning, including incorrect inequalities and assumptions about the behavior of series terms as n approaches infinity. These unresolved mathematical steps contribute to the ongoing debate.

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Do the following series converge or diverge?

a) $\displaystyle \sum\frac{1}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$

b) $\displaystyle\sum\frac{(-1)^n}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$

My attempt:

a) $\displaystyle\frac{1}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n\approx\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}$ (Stirling’s formula)

$\displaystyle \sum\frac{1}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n\approx \sum\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}$

Since $\displaystyle\sum\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}$ diverges, $\displaystyle \sum\frac{1}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)$ also diverges.

b) $\displaystyle\frac{(-1)^n}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n\approx\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}$ (Stirling’s formula)

$\displaystyle \sum\frac{(-1)^n}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n\approx \sum\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}$

By Leibniz's test for alternating series, $\displaystyle\sum\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{2\pi n}}$ converges.

So, $\displaystyle\sum\frac{(-1)^n}{n!}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$ also converges.
 
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Is my solution correct?
 
chisigma said:
Setting $\displaystyle a_{n}= \frac{1}{n!}\ (\frac{n}{e})^{n}$ You have...

$\displaystyle \ln a_{n}= n\ (\ln n -\ln e) -\ln n!= n\ (\ln n-1) - \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k$ (1)

Now You have...

$\displaystyle n\ (\ln n-1)= \int_{1}^{n} \ln x\ dx > \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k$ (2)

... so that is...

$\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \ln a_{n} >0 \implies \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_{n} >1$ (3)

... and the necessary condition for convergence is not verified...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

But what's wrong with my solution?
 
My previous post was wrong because I incorrectly wrote $\displaystyle \int_{1}^{n} \ln x\ dx > \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k$ and is $\displaystyle \int_{1}^{n} \ln x\ dx < \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k$...

Very sorry!... any thanks is absolutely a nonsense!...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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chisigma said:
Writing $\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{\sqrt{2\ \pi\ n}}{n!}\ (\frac{n}{e})^{n}=1$ doesn't mean $\displaystyle \frac{1}{n!}\ (\frac{n}{e})^{n}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\ \pi\ n}}$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

But aren't they approximately equal for large $n$?

---------- Post added at 03:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:09 AM ----------

chisigma said:
My previous post was wrong because I incorrectly wrote $\displaystyle \int_{1}^{n} \ln x\ dx > \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k$ and is $\displaystyle \int_{1}^{n} \ln x\ dx < \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k$...

Very sorry!... any thanks is absolutely a nonsense!...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Does that mean my solution is right?
 
Alexmahone said:
But aren't they approximately equal for large $n$?

---------- Post added at 03:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:09 AM ----------



Does that mean my solution is right?

Rewriting my previous post we have...

$\displaystyle \int_{1}^{n} \ln x\ dx - \sum_{k=1}^{n} \ln k = \sum_{k=1}^{n} \int_{k}^{k+1} (ln x - \ln (k+1))\ dx \sim - \sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{1}{k+1}$

... so that is $\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_{n}=0$ and Your solution is probably correct...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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