Analyzing a Simple Pendulum: Length, Displacement, Velocity, and Restoring Force

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a simple pendulum's motion, given a mass that swings with a frequency of 0.8 Hz and a maximum displacement of 0.1 rad. The length of the string is calculated to be approximately 0.39 m using the relationship between angular frequency and gravitational acceleration. For maximum displacement in meters, the arc length is determined by multiplying the string length by the angle in radians, confirming that 0.1 rad corresponds to about 0.039 m. The velocity function is derived by differentiating the equation of motion, and the restoring force is expressed in terms of mass, gravitational acceleration, string length, and maximum angle. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using radians for accurate calculations and the approximation of small angles in pendulum motion.
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Homework Statement


A mass,m, hangs from a string and swings with a frequency of 0.8 Hz with
a maximum
displacement of 0.1 rad. The equation of motion is given by
x=Acos(ωt).

A) What is the length of the string?
B) What is the maximum displacement of the mass in meters?
C) What is the velocity of the mass as a function of time? Leave the answer as a function of m,g,L, and θmax
(Hint: Take the derivative of the equation of motion).
D)
What is the restoring force acting on the mass as a function of time? Leave the answer as a function of m,g,L, and θmax
(Hint: Find the acceleration)

Homework Equations


ω=sqrt(g/l)
ω=2pif

The Attempt at a Solution


for part a) ω = 2pif and ω = sqrt(g/l) (since this is a simple pendulum)
so
2pif=sqrt(g/l)
or
l=g/(4pi^2f^2) = 9.8/(4pi^2(.8)^2) = .39m

for part b i can't figure out how to get .1 rads into meters. this is my attempt so far
(.1 rad) (cycle/2pi rad) (second/.8cycle) = .02 seconds

for part c take the derivativedx/dt = d/dt(Acos(sqrt(g/l)t))
v = -Asin(sqrt(g/l)t)(sqrt(g/l)
im guessing the theta max that the question wants v defined in terms of will be part of Apart d
a = dv/dt = d/dt(-Asin(sqrt(g/l)t)(sqrt(g/l))
= -Acos(sqrt(g/l)t)(g/l)

then use F = ma = -kx

m * -Acos(sqrt(g/l)t)(g/l)

any feedback?
 
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wait i think i got it.
for part b
x= l*theta = .39m * .01
or is it .39 * .01 * 2pi? (radians confuse me)
 
toothpaste666 said:
wait i think i got it.
for part b
x= l*theta = .39m * .01
or is it .39 * .01 * 2pi? (radians confuse me)
You mean .39m * .1, right? Yes, that's near enough. (The whole point of using radians as the unit of angle is to make this relationship easy: radius x angle = arc length.)
But note that it really gives you the arc length displacement, not the horizontal displacement. If you want the horizontal displacement you need to use sin(), but for such a small angle there's very little difference. Besides, in order to solve (a) you already had to assume the angle is so small that the two are near enough the same.
 
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haruspex said:
You mean .39m * .1, right? Yes, that's near enough. (The whole point of using radians as the unit of angle is to make this relationship easy: radius x angle = arc length.)
But note that it really gives you the arc length displacement, not the horizontal displacement. If you want the horizontal displacement you need to use sin(), but for such a small angle there's very little difference. Besides, in order to solve (a) you already had to assume the angle is so small that the two are near enough the same.
oops yes i meant .1 And yea I assuming sin(theta) is approximately equal to theta. I probably should have mentioned that. The rest of it looks ok though? particularly part d? I wasnt entirely sure what to do once I found the acceleration so i just set ma= -kx and plugged in a
 
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oops yes i meant .1 And yea I assuming sin(theta) is approximately equal to theta. I probably should have mentioned that. The rest of it looks ok though? particularly part d? I wasnt entirely sure what to do once I found the acceleration so i just set ma= -kx and plugged in a
Yes, but you need to replace A by some function involving thetamax.
 
couldnt i replace the A with l * thetamax?
 
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couldnt i replace the A with l * thetamax?
That'll do it.
 
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thanks for your help
 

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