Analyzing Dark Matter Halos: Isothermal vs NFW Profiles

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of dark matter halos, specifically comparing isothermal and NFW (Navarro-Frenk-White) profiles. Participants explore the mathematical modeling of these halos, the implications for the Milky Way, and the challenges associated with determining parameters such as core radius and virial radius.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using an analytical equation for the density of an isothermal halo, questioning how to fix core radius or central density to model the Milky Way.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative equation for the isothermal halo density, prompting discussion about the variations in equations found in different literature.
  • Some participants note that the virial radius is crucial for modeling NFW halos, with one participant stating the Milky Way's virial radius is significantly larger than its physical radius.
  • There is mention of the need to solve the differential equation for the isothermal model numerically to obtain a core radius.
  • One participant discusses the differences between singular and non-singular isothermal spheres, highlighting the importance of their limiting behavior and how they relate to observational data.
  • Another participant contrasts the NFW profile with the isothermal model, noting that while the NFW profile fits simulations better, discrepancies exist near the centers of halos.
  • There is acknowledgment that the choice between isothermal and NFW profiles may depend on the specific region of the halo being studied.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate equations for isothermal halos and the implications of using either isothermal or NFW profiles. There is no consensus on which model is definitively better for all scenarios, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for modeling dark matter halos.

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Participants reference various equations and models, indicating that the choice of formulae can vary across different papers. The discussion highlights the complexity of fitting models to observational data and the ongoing research in this area.

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Hi all,

I have currently been reading up on dark matter halos as I’m considering doing a small project on them for my degree. I plan to use an (approximated) analytical equation for the density at r of an isothermal halo in terms of the halos central density and core radius.

density(r) = density(0) * (a^2)/(a^2+r^2)
where a = core radius.

How would I be able to fix either the core radius or central density of in order to model the Milky Way?

I would love to compare this result with a model of the milky way that has an NFW profile.

Regarding the NFW halos, I’m having trouble with the virial radius. The virial radius is needed in order to calculate the scale radius, which is used in the equation for the density at r. I understand the virial radius is the radius of a sphere that encompasses around 200 times the critical density. But how does the virial radius compare to the physical radius of a halo. For instance, I've read the virial radius for the Milky Way was 428 kpc or so. Much larger than the radius of the milky way, which is around 15 kpc. Do I need the physical radius of the milky way in order to model it as an NFW halo?

Any help will be very much appreciated.
 
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S.P.P said:
Hi all,
I have currently been reading up on dark matter halos as I’m considering doing a small project on them for my degree. I plan to use an (approximated) analytical equation for the density at r of an isothermal halo in terms of the halos central density and core radius.
density(r) = density(0) * (a^2)/(a^2+r^2)
where a = core radius.
Should that not be
[tex]\rho(r) = \frac{\rho_0 a^3}{(a + r)^2r}[/tex] ?

Garth
 
possibly

Interesting you should mention that. I have seen several different equations for this isothermal model. The equation I quoted was taken from arXiv:astro-ph/0403064 v1 2 Mar 2004 (page 33).
 
S.P.P said:
Interesting you should mention that. I have seen several different equations for this isothermal model. The equation I quoted was taken from arXiv:astro-ph/0403064 v1 2 Mar 2004 (page 33).
I took mine from Disk formation in an NFW halo
Yours looks simpler.

Garth
 
think I understand

Right, a bit more reading into it and I think I understand now. The virial radius, is the physical radius of the halo, which for the Milky Way is around 350 kpc or so, and the radius of the visible disc is something like 15kpc.

As for obtaining a core radius for that isothermal model, the differential equation describing an isothermal model must be solved numerically, and then the approximation is fitted to the actual solution. For a given mass within a given volume, one can then obtain the central density
 
These are all fitting formulae (not physically motivated, for the most part), so their form can vary from paper to paper. However, there are some standards. The singular isothermal sphere should always take the simple form:

[tex]\rho\propto\frac{1}{r^2}[/tex]

where there will be some set of normalizing constants in the above equation. Sometimes it's expressed in terms of the associated rotation velocity and other times just some scaled density, but as long as they're both 1/r2, it's really the same thing.

When one moves to the non-singular isothermal spheres (meaning the density doesn't approach infinity as r -> 0), the standards are less straightforward. The available formulae can be characterized (and are chosen) based on their limiting behavior. The formula the OP gives approaches the singular isothermal sphere at large radii and a constant density at small radii. This is a decent fit to some galaxies, but a poor fit to most clusters (for which similar formulae are often used). Another example of a non-singular isothermal sphere is:

[tex]\rho = \frac{Me^{-r/r_t}}{2\pi^{3/2}\gamma r_t (r^2 + r_c^2)}[/tex]

There are several normalizing constants and scale radii, but the important thing is that it has roughly constant density at the center, approaches 1/r2 at moderate radii, and has an exponential truncation at the outskirts.

The point behind the isothermal sphere is that it produces flat rotation curves at moderate radii. It's meant to fit to the observational data that suggest a roughly flat rotation curve for spiral galaxies. We can only measure rotation curves out to moderate distance from the galaxy's center (the galaxy becomes too dim at the outskirts), so we don't know how far out the 1/r2 dependence goes. It must change form at some point because the total integrated mass diverges for a halo that is 1/r2 all the way to infinity. The curve the OP gives ignores this problem, presumably because the outer profile doesn't matter for the purposes of the reference paper.

The profile Garth gives is quite different, both qualitatively and quantitatively. It is the standard NFW profile. This profile was made to fit simulations rather than observations, so if its parameters can be chosen to successfully fit real galaxy data, then it means theory matches observation. Again, look at the limiting behavior. At large radii, it approaches a 1/r3 profile, while at small radii it goes as 1/r. At first glance, it would seem to never have a 1/r2 dependence and thus be inconsistent with observations of a flat rotation curve. However, there must be some transition zone between the two dependences, so it turns out that at the radii to which we can measure rotation curves, the NFW profile is approximately 1/r2.

There has been a lot of research on how well the NFW profile fits real data and the general consensus seems to be that it's better than isothermal models, but not dramatically so. The biggest discrepancy is near the centers of the halos, where the simulations appear to have a sharper cusp than the data. This was already discussed in another thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=104282"

As simulation and observations improve, we'll be able to get a better handle on just how well they match. The fits do seem to be getting better with time, but I would still be cautious to say anything definitive.
 
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Yes, thank you ST, the OP formula

[tex]\rho(r) = \frac{\rho_0 a^2}{(a^2 + r^2)}[/tex]

is the standard density function of the required dark matter halo to fit the rotation curve of a spiral such as the MIlky Way. It delivers a rigid-body rotaiton for small r and a flat rotation curve for large r. Of course it also has to be truncated at some large r.

My formula quoted

[tex]\rho(r) = \frac{\rho_0 a^3}{(a + r)^2r}[/tex]

is the NFW formula that gives a better fit to the DM in galaxy clusters. Which to use depends on at how far out you want to study the halo.

I was a little confused because S.P.P. mentioned NFW, I thought the focus was to be beyond just the Milky Way.


Garth
 
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If you apply the rules of fluid dynamics, a twisting moment is introduced. This enormously complicates the calculations. About this time, a triplet of bench players from the turbulence family takes over playing the outfield.
 
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