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The discussion centers on proving that for non-empty subsets \( S \) and \( T \) of \( \mathbb{R} \), if \( s \le t \) for all \( s \in S \) and \( t \in T \), then \( \sup S \le \inf T \). The existence of \( \sup S \) and \( \inf T \) is established due to the non-empty nature of the sets. It is concluded that since every element \( s \in S \) serves as a lower bound for \( T \), it follows that \( s \le \inf T \), leading to the contradiction if \( \sup S > \inf T \).

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Let $S$ and $T$ be non-empty subsets of $\mathbb{R}$, and suppose that for all $s\in S$ and $t\in T$, we have $s\le t$. Prove that $\sup S\le\inf T$.
 
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Alexmahone said:
Let $S$ and $T$ be non-empty subsets of $\mathbb{R}$, and suppose that for all $s\in S$ and $t\in T$, we have $s\le t$. Prove that $\sup S\le\inf T$.
Clearly $ \inf(T)$ & $\sup(S) $ exist. WHY?

$\forall s\in S$ we know $s\le\inf(T)~.$ WHY?$
 
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Plato said:
Clearly $ \inf(T)$ & $\sup(S) $ exist. WHY?

Because $S$ and $T$ are non-empty subsets of $\mathbb{R}$.

$\forall s\in S$ we know $s\le\inf(T)~.$ WHY?

I don't know. Why?
 
Alexmahone said:
I don't know. Why?
Well every $s\in S$ is a lower bound for $T$.
Therefore $s\le\inf(T)$.
 
Plato said:
Well every $s\in S$ is a lower bound for $T$.
Therefore $s\le\inf(T)$.

So if $\sup S>\inf T$, there must be an $s\in S$ such that $s>\inf T$. (Otherwise, $\inf T$ is a smaller upper bound for $S$ than $\sup S$.) So we get a contradiction. (Is that correct?)
 
Alexmahone said:
So if $\sup S>\inf T$, there must be an $s\in S$ such that $s>\inf T$. (Otherwise, $\inf T$ is a smaller upper bound for $S$ than $\sup S$.) So we get a contradiction. (Is that correct?)
Yes. It is correct.
 

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