Answer Ellastic Collision: Momentum, CM velocity & Relative Velocity

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision problem involving two objects with specified masses and velocities. The original poster seeks confirmation on their calculations related to momentum, center of mass velocity, and relative velocities before and after the collision.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate total momentum, center of mass velocity, and relative velocities, while questioning the treatment of the velocity of the second object as negative due to its direction.

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Participants have provided feedback on the calculations, noting an addition error in the final line of the original poster's work. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's understanding regarding the negative velocity of the second object, with supportive comments from others.

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The original poster's calculations are based on the assumption that the velocities must be treated with directionality, leading to the consideration of negative values for objects moving in the opposite direction.

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hi,
I have solved this problem. I just wanted to know whether i have the correct answer. Also in the problem the object 2 which is moving to the left with the velocity of 2m/s has to be considered negative right. I mean i have to consider the velocity to be (-2m/s). Please help me its urgent.

Two objects moving in opposite direction collide ellastically. Object 1 has a mass of 20 kg moves to the right with velocity 5m/s. Object 2 has a mass of 30 kg moves to the left with velocity 2m/s.
a) Find total momentum.
b) Find velocity of center of mass
c) Find relative velocity before the collision.
d) Find the velocities after the collision.
e) Find relative velocity after the collision.

a) total momentum= Total mass * V(cm)
V(cm)= (20 kg * 5m/s + 30 kg * (-2m/s))/20 kg + 30 kg
= 0.8 m/s

total momentum= (20kg + 30kg)* 0.8 m/s
= 40 kg m/s

b) V(cm) velocity of center of mass = 0.8 m/s

c) Relative velocity before collision V(r)= V(1) - V(2)
= 5m/s - (-2m/s)
= 7m/s

d) m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2'
v1' and v2' are velocities after the collision
20kg*5m/s + 30kg*(-2m/s) = 20kg*v1' + 30kg*v2'
40 kg m/s = 20 kg ( v1' + (3/2) v2' )
2 m/s = v1' +(3/2) v2'
For one dimensinal ellastic collision we know that
v1 - v2 = -(v1' - v2')
7m/s = -v1' + v2'
On solving 2 m/s = v1' +(3/2) v2'
7m/s = -v1' + v2'
we get v2'= 3.6 m/s and v1' = -3.4 m/s

e) Relative velocity after collision V(r) = v1' - v2'
= -3.4 m/s - 3.6 m/s
= -10 m/s
 
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All good except for an addition error on the very last line.
 
Doc Al said:
All good except for an addition error on the very last line.

Thanks, so its true that the object 2 which is moving to the left to have negative velocity. I highly appreciate your effort in checking my work, thanks.
 
jacy said:
so its true that the object 2 which is moving to the left to have negative velocity.
Absolutely.
 
Doc Al said:
Absolutely.

Thanks Al for your help.
 

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