Answer:Finding Value of k & Probability of A Winning at Least 2 Matches

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities related to a series of 10 ping-pong matches between players A and B, where player A has a winning probability of 0.2 for each match. Participants are addressing two specific questions: finding the value of k for which the probability of A winning exactly k matches is 0.888, and determining the probability that A wins at least two matches.

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  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether A could win 2, 3, 5, or 8 matches with the same probability, seeking clarification on how to find the value of k.
  • Another participant calculates the probabilities for A winning 0 to 3 matches, concluding that none correspond to the probability of 0.888.
  • A different participant suggests that the given probability might be approximately 0.088 instead and proposes using the binomial formula to find k.
  • One participant attempts to compute the probability that A wins at least two matches by using the complement of winning less than two matches.
  • Another participant mistakenly calculates the probability of A winning as 0.8, which is challenged by others who clarify the need to consider the probabilities of winning zero or one match instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the probability of A winning exactly k matches does not correspond to 0.888, but there is disagreement regarding the correct interpretation of the probability and the calculations involved in determining the probability of winning at least two matches.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations and assumptions about the binomial distribution are presented, but there are unresolved steps in determining the exact value of k and the probability of winning at least two matches.

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Two ping-pong players $A$ & $B$ play a series of 10 matches. The probability that $A$ wins any of the matches is $0.2$

a) If the probability that $A$ wins exactly $k$ matches in the series is $0.888$. What's the value of $k$?

b) What's the probability that $A$ wins at least two matches?

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I ain't good with these stuff, so I hope you guys may help me please. :D
The part a) states that $A$ could win 2, 3, 5 or 8 matches and the probability is the same, is this assumption correct? How to find the value of $k$?

As for b), how can I compute the asked probability? I know that $A$ has probability of wining any of the patches with value $0.2$, but when it says "at least," I can understand it.

Thank you.
 
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Kudasai said:
Two ping-pong players $A$ & $B$ play a series of 10 matches. The probability that $A$ wins any of the matches is $0.2$

a) If the probability that $A$ wins exactly $k$ matches in the series is $0.888$. What's the value of $k$?

b) What's the probability that $A$ wins at least two matches?

---------------

I ain't good with these stuff, so I hope you guys may help me please. :D
The part a) states that $A$ could win 2, 3, 5 or 8 matches and the probability is the same, is this assumption correct? How to find the value of $k$?

As for b), how can I compute the asked probability? I know that $A$ has probability of wining any of the patches with value $0.2$, but when it says "at least," I can understand it.

Thank you.

The probability that A wins k games of the 10 games is... $\displaystyle P \{k=0 \} = \binom {10}{0}\ .2^{0}\ .8^{10} = .10737...$

$\displaystyle P \{k=1 \} = \binom {10}{1}\ .2\ .8^{9} = .2684...$

$\displaystyle P \{k=2 \} = \binom {10}{2}\ .2^{2}\ .8^{8} = .3019...$

$\displaystyle P \{k=3 \} = \binom {10}{3}\ .2^{3}\ .8^{7} = .201326...$

... and it is fully evident that P= .888 doesn't correspond to any value of k. The probability $P\{k \ge 2\}$ is... $\displaystyle P\{k \ge 2\} = 1 - P\{k = 0\} - P\{k= 1\}\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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I agree with chisigma that for part a) there is no solution, however, I suspect the given probability should be approximately 0.088. Then we may write:

$${10 \choose k}(0.2)^k(0.8)^{10-k}\approx0.088$$

Try successive values for $k$.

For part b) I would use the fact that:

$$P(\text{A wins less than two})+P(\text{A wins at least two})=1$$

We can arrange this as:

$$P(\text{A wins at least two})=1-P(\text{A wins zero OR A wins 1})$$

Can you proceed?
 
Okay so I have for b) that

$P(A)=1-P(A^c),$ so $P(A)=1-0.2=0.8.$ Is it correct? I think it's too easy to be correct.

Thanks.
 
Kudasai said:
Okay so I have for b) that

$P(A)=1-P(A^c),$ so $P(A)=1-0.2=0.8.$ Is it correct? I think it's too easy to be correct.

Thanks.

Yes, that's not correct. You want:

$$P(\text{A wins at least two})=1-P(\text{A wins zero OR A wins 1})$$

Now, we may write:

$$P(\text{A wins zero OR A wins 1})=P(\text{A wins zero})+P(\text{A wins one})$$

And apply the binomial probability formula to each event on the right.
 

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