Anyone Understand Obama's Mortgage Modification ?

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The discussion revolves around the complexities and potential pitfalls of Obama's "Mortgage Modification" program, particularly in the context of a specific case where a woman faced unexpected changes to her mortgage terms. Participants explore the implications of these modifications, the behavior of lenders, and the regulatory framework surrounding mortgage agreements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a situation where a woman was pressured into signing a mortgage agreement with unfavorable terms, raising questions about the legality and requirements of the "mortgage modification" program.
  • Another participant suggests that the original mortgage may have "fallen through," indicating that lenders often offer replacements, which can lead to worse deals for borrowers.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for lenders to exploit borrowers, particularly those in high-risk situations, by offering loans at higher rates.
  • Participants discuss the importance of understanding the financing behind the loan and the possibility that loans can be sold to different banks after origination.
  • Several participants recommend that the woman contact regulatory offices or resources for assistance, emphasizing the need for awareness of cancellation rights and available support services.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the nature of the mortgage modification process and the behavior of lenders, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is no consensus on the specifics of the program or the best course of action for the woman in question.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for misunderstandings regarding cancellation rights and the specifics of mortgage agreements, but do not resolve these issues. There is uncertainty about the exact requirements and implications of the "mortgage modification" program.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals facing mortgage modifications, those interested in understanding the mortgage process, and homeowners seeking information on regulatory resources may find this discussion relevant.

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Anyone Understand Obama's "Mortgage Modification"?

A woman I know here just refinanced her house apparently according to Obama's "Mortgage Modification". The lender quoted her a very good fixed interest. Then, on the day of the signing (yesterday) they suddenly told her the interest had to be higher and it had to be an adjustable rate mortgage. They pressured her to sign, claiming there was some deadline, and she caved.

I can't really find anything online that isn't posted by mortgage lenders. Does anyone know what this "mortgage modification" actually requires? Is it a law with specifications that the woman could demonstrate the lender has violated with their bait and switch?

When I ran into her yesterday she was very depressed because she had discovered earlier that her monthly payments were going to start at $600.00 more a month than the bank had quoted. With an ARM, they're only going to go up from there. Now she can't plow money into fixing the place up bit by bit as she'd hoped. She felt she couldn't back out because she had a balloon coming up on the old mortgage and had to pay that off.
 
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What happened is that the original mortgage fell through, so they offered her a replacement. I see that a LOT. The only thing to do is to tell them you have to think it over and leave. Most people want the house so bad that they take the worse deal anyway.

A lot of lenders advertising the "obama thing:, are in deed shiesters. I hope she didn't reach them through one of those internet adds. There might have never been another loan available to her. I'm not up on what "mortgage modification" entails though.

She needs to call whichever regulatory office handles mortgage complaints. Most contracts fall under the unwritten 30 day cancellation most buyers are not aware of. Not sure if there is a similar grace period with home loans. She might lose her deposit and fee for paperwork, but much better than getting her home reposssed.

Have her call this number
The Federal government provides free resources to get you the help you need. Homeowners can call the Homeowner’s HOPE™ Hotline at 1-888-995-HOPE (4673) for information about the Making Home Affordable Program and to speak with a HUD approved housing counselor. Assistance is available in English and Spanish, and other languages by appointment.

HUD.org is another free website where you may go to find a local counselor in your region. HUD.gov

MakingHomeAffordable.gov also has many resources for you to check online. It allows you to compute estimated payments as well as has other resources. Making Home Affordable

She might be dealing with a scammer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage_modification
 
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Evo said:
What happened is that the original mortgage fell through, so they offered her a replacement.
What does this mean, exactly? How would it "fall through"? The mortgage co is actually getting the loan from somewhere else?


She needs to call whichever regulatory office handles mortgage complaints. Most contracts fall under the unwritten 30 day cancellation most buyers are not aware of. Not sure if there is a similar grace period with home loans. She might lose her deposit and fee for paperwork, but much better than getting her home reposssed.

Have her call this number
This looks like the best course of action. I'll have her try this.

Thanks, Evo!
 
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zoobyshoe said:
What does this mean, exactly? How would it "fall through"? The mortgage co is actually getting the loan from somewhere else?
Dang, I accidently hit "edit on your post zoob.

It's very possible, especially in the case of a "high risk" applicant. It is not uncommon for mortgage brokers to go to individuals or groups that will agree to take on a high risk loan, usually for a lot higher rate. You need to find out who exactly is financing the loan. Also, it's common for loans to be sold. You start out with a loan from one bank, then the next thing you know you've been sold to a different bank.
 


Evo said:
Dang, I accidently hit "edit on your post zoob.

It's very possible, especially in the case of a "high risk" applicant. It is not uncommon for mortgage brokers to go to individuals or groups that will agree to take on a high risk loan, usually for a lot higher rate. You need to find out who exactly is financing the loan. Also, it's common for loans to be sold. You start out with a loan from one bank, then the next thing you know you've been sold to a different bank.

OK. I'll go down there later and give her this info. Hope they can help her.
 

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