AP.6.1.1 A region is bounded between the graphs

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area of a region bounded by the graphs of the function \( f(x) = x^3 \) and the horizontal lines \( y = -1 \) and \( y = 1 \) over specified intervals. Participants explore different methods for evaluating the integral and discuss the implications of symmetry and the properties of odd functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes calculating the area by integrating \( 2 \int^1_0 (1 - x^3) \, dx \) and suggests that the symmetry of the problem allows for doubling the area found in one interval.
  • Another participant agrees with the approach but notes that it may not be the most efficient method and recommends explaining the reasoning behind multiplying the integral by 2 due to the odd function property of \( x^3 \).
  • A different participant points out that while the areas for the given intervals are the same, one area is positive and the other negative, leading to cancellation, and suggests simply multiplying the positive area by two, although they acknowledge this may not be conventional.
  • A later reply clarifies that while the odd-function rule would indicate the integral evaluates to zero, the task is to compute a bounded area, which requires a different approach involving the integration of both positive and negative contributions separately.
  • This participant also introduces a substitution method for the integrals to demonstrate how to compute the area more explicitly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the most efficient method for calculating the area, with some advocating for the symmetry argument and others emphasizing the need for careful consideration of positive and negative contributions. No consensus is reached on a single preferred method.

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Participants highlight the importance of understanding the properties of odd functions and the implications for area calculations, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the most efficient approach and the handling of negative areas.

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$\tiny{AP.6.1.1}\\$
$\textsf{Let $f(x)=x^3$}\\$
$\textsf{A region is bounded between the graphs of $y=-1$ and $y=\ f(x)$ }\\$
$\textsf{for x between $-1$ and $0$, region. }\\$
$\textsf{And between the graph of $y=1$ and $y=f(x)$ for x between $0$ and $1$ }\\$
$\textsf{This appears to be symmetrical so in order to get complete area one is found then doubled} \\$
\begin{align}
\displaystyle
I&=2 \int^1_0{(1-x^3)}d{x}\\
&=2 \left[ x-\frac{x^4}{4} \right]_0^1\\
&=2\left[\left[1-\frac{1}{4}\right]_0-\left[0-\frac{0}{4}\right]^1\right] \\
&=2\left[\frac{3}{4}-0\right]\\
&=\frac{6}{4}=\frac{3}{2}
\end{align}
$\textit{think this is ok but suggestions?}$
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Looks good to me and that is certainly an efficient way of going about it, if not the most efficient. You may want to include a detailed note as to why you are multiplying the integral by 2, using the fact that $x^3$ is an odd function. :)
 
the areas for given interval's are the same but one is positive and the other is negative so they cancel, so just multiply the positive one twice. may not be conventional though..
r$\tiny{s6.12.13}$
$\textsf{Find an equation of the sphere}\\$
$\textsf{that passes through the point (4,3,-1) and has center (3,8,1)} $
\begin{align}
\displaystyle
(x-3)^2+(y-8)^2+(z-1)^2&= r^2\\
\sqrt{(3-4)^2+(8-3)^2+(1+1)^2}&=r^2\\
\sqrt{1+25+4}&=\sqrt{30}^2=30 =r
\end{align}
$\textit{so far ??}$
 
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karush said:
the areas for given interval's are the same but one is positive and the other is negative so they cancel, so just multiply the positive one twice. may not be conventional though..

If you were computing the integral, then yes the odd-function rule would immediately tell you it evaluates to zero. However, you are asked to compute a bounded area, so that's a bit different. You could state:

$$A=\int_{-1}^0 x^3-(-1)\,dx+\int_{0}^1 1-x^3\,dx=\int_{-1}^0 1+x^3\,dx+\int_{0}^1 1-x^3\,dx$$

Now, for the first integral on the RHS, let's let:

$$u=-x\implies du=-dx$$

And for the second integral, let's let:

$$u=x\implies du=dx$$

Now, for the first integral we can replace the negative sign on the differential with a change of limits (and the limits get negated as per the substitution), and after we make the substitutions, we have:

$$A=\int_{0}^{1} 1-u^3\,du+\int_{0}^1 1-u^3\,du=2\int_{0}^1 1-u^3\,du$$
 

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