Apparent frequency of reflected wave

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The problem involves a police car with a siren chasing another car, focusing on the apparent frequency of the sound heard by the second driver, particularly regarding the reflected wave from the first car. The subject area includes concepts of wave frequency, relative motion, and the Doppler effect.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the apparent frequency of the siren heard by driver T and the reflected wave. There is uncertainty about the direction of the reflected sound wave and who actually hears it.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions made about who hears the reflected wave and suggesting alternative interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding recalculating the frequency for the police car.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the setup of the problem, particularly about the direction of the reflected wave and the roles of the two drivers in hearing it. Participants are exploring these assumptions without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement



A police car P with its siren on is chasing car T . The frequency of the siren is 1000hz. The speed of police car P is 30m/s . and the speed of car T is 40m/s . What's the apparent frequency of the siren heard by driver T > the ans is 967hz . I managed to get the ans for this.
But i didnt managed to get the ans for part b .
here's part b :
What's the apparent frequency of the reflected wave heard by driver T ? the ans is 941 hz. p/s : i assume both P and T are moving to the right.

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apparent frequency of the siren heard by driver T = ((330-40)/(330-30))x 1000 = 967hz.

b ) apparent frequency of the siren emitted by P to the left = (330/(330+30)) x 1000 = 917hz.

apparent frequency of the siren reflected from the right and heard by T after reflection = ((330-40) / (330-30) ) x 917hz = 886hz . i am not sure which direction of the sound wave is reflected. can somoene explain on this?
 
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Are you sure the question is asking about driver T hearing the reflected wave? It makes more sense that driver P hears the wave reflected off of T.
 
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vela said:
Are you sure the question is asking about driver T hearing the reflected wave? It makes more sense that driver P hears the wave reflected off of T.

yes the question asking T heard the wave
 
Driver T can't hear the reflected wave- it is moving away from him.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Driver T can't hear the reflected wave- it is moving away from him.

so is the question wrong?
 
Sounds like it. Try calculating the frequency P hears for the reflected wave.
 

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