Approximation Problems (Finding an equation of a Tangent Line)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a tangent line for the function f(x) = 3x² - 1 at the point (2, 11). Participants explore the steps involved in using the point-slope formula and evaluating function values at specific increments around the point of tangency.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on obtaining the tangent line equation and recalls the point-slope formula.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the tangent line derived using the point-slope formula.
  • A third participant reiterates the name of the formula and suggests evaluating f(x ± 0.01) and y(x ± 0.01) as the next step.
  • A participant calculates function values at x = 1.99 and x = 2.01 but receives feedback that the tangent line equation was incorrectly applied.
  • One participant points out the error in the tangent line calculation, suggesting that the constant should be -13 instead of -1.
  • The participant corrects their calculations and shares the new function values, expressing gratitude for the assistance received.
  • Another participant reassures the contributor that mistakes are common and encourages them to learn from the experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correctness of the tangent line after the initial error was pointed out, and they confirm the revised function values. However, the discussion includes a correction of earlier claims, indicating that there was uncertainty in the initial calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of careful application of formulas and the potential for simple mistakes in calculations, particularly when dealing with polynomial functions.

Who May Find This Useful

Students learning about calculus, particularly those focusing on tangent lines and the application of the point-slope formula.

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I am asking for simple guidance on this problem.

f(x) = 3x^2-1, (2,11)I do believe I need to obtain an equation for tan line so first step I think is to use point slope or slope intercept (a friendly reminder to the name of formula would be very nice :))

y - ysub1 = m(x-xsub1)

= y - f(2) = f '(2)(x-2)

= y - 11 = 12(x-2) =

y = 12x -13

am I correct thus far obtaining the equation of the Tan Line for this specific problem?

also, what is my next step ? I am told after I get the equation for the tan line to then find the function values and the tan line values at f(x + delta x) and y(x+delta x) for delta x = -0.01 and 0.01

Thanks very much !
 
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Your tanget line is correct.

The function values will be of the form f(x-0.01), can you continue?
 
Yes, that is the correct tangent line. The formula you used is aptly named the point-slope formula, because it contains as parameters, the slope $\displaystyle m$ and the point $\displaystyle (x_1,y_1)$.

For the next step, evaluate:

$\displaystyle f(x\pm0.01)$ and $\displaystyle y(x\pm0.01)$.
 
so like this...

f(1.99) = 3(1.99)-1 = 4.97
f(2.01) = 3(2.01)-1 = 5.03

and

y(1.99) = 12(1.99)-1 = 22.88
y(2.01) = 12(2.01) - 1 = 23.12Is this right fellas?(Thinking)
 
No, the reason the values are so far off, is that x is squared in the function definition and you need to subtract 13, not 1 in your tangent line. Try it again, and your values will be much closer.
 
wow...I made the changes and they were easy changes I missed

the new values Mark is 10.8803,11.1203

y function values are as follows

10.88 and 11.12

Thanks Mark! What would I ever do without you? Think on my own ? (Envy)
 
Yes, those values are correct!

Hey, it was a simple mistake, the kind most of us make from time to time. So don't be discouraged. You will get better at recognizing when you have made a mistake like this. Your clue this time was the fact that the values were so far apart.(Wave)
 

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