Arclength parameter for a path with exponential and trigonometric functions

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Homework Statement


Find the arclength parameter s=s(t) for the path
x(t)=e^(at)cos(bt)i + e^(at)sin(bt)j + e^(at)k

Homework Equations


[itex]s(t)=\int_{a}^{t}\left | \mathbf{x}(\tau ) \right |d\tau[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I took the derivative and squared it, arriving at the equation [itex](-be\sin bt)^{2}+(ae\cos bt))^{2}+(be\cos bt)^{2}+(ae\sin bt)^{2}+(ae^{at})^{2}[/itex]. How would I go about simplifying this in order to take the square root and integrate it? It seems extremely complex to be able to integrate at the moment. Thanks.
 
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yango_17 said:

Homework Statement


Find the arclength parameter s=s(t) for the path
x(t)=e^(at)cos(bt)i + e^(at)sin(bt)j + e^(at)k

Homework Equations


[itex]s(t)=\int_{a}^{t}\left | \mathbf{x}(\tau ) \right |d\tau[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I took the derivative and squared it, arriving at the equation [itex](-be\sin bt)^{2}+(ae\cos bt))^{2}+(be\cos bt)^{2}+(ae\sin bt)^{2}+(ae^{at})^{2}[/itex]. How would I go about simplifying this in order to take the square root and integrate it? It seems extremely complex to be able to integrate at the moment. Thanks.
Well, what have you tried? With a lot of sines and cosines being squared and all, are there any trig identities you think which might be useful in simplifying this integrand?
 
The cos and sin for the ae terms cancel to 1, but then I am left with a -be and a be, which would let me factor out ##-\sin ^{2}(bt)+cos^{2}(bt)##, which I am unsure how to simplify. Also, not too sure what to do with the (ae^ae)^2 term.
 
yango_17 said:
The cos and sin for the ae terms cancel to 1, but then I am left with a -be and a be, which would let me factor out ##-\sin ^{2}(bt)+cos^{2}(bt)##, which I am unsure how to simplify. Also, not too sure what to do with the (ae^ae)^2 term.
You're squaring everything. How can you have any negative quantities in the integrand?
 
Ah, I see. So, I'd be left with ##2ae^{at^{2}}+be^{2}## under the square root?
 
It would be ##2ae^{2at}##. So, under the square root we have ##2ae^{2at}+be^{2}##?
 
yango_17 said:
It would be ##2ae^{2at}##. So, under the square root we have ##2ae^{2at}+be^{2}##?
You seem to have lost some terms along the way. How did you start with eat and ebt and wind up with just plain ae and be ?

Remember, many a calculus student's career was derailed not by the calculus, but by algebra or arithmetic.
 
Going back, it seems like I should have ##be^{2at}+2ae^{2at}##. Correct?
 
Factoring? What do you mean, exactly?
 
e^(at) could be factored out, right?
 
So, in the end we're left with ##e^{at}\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}##. Am I correct in assuming that the things under the radical can no longer be simplified?
 
yango_17 said:
So, in the end we're left with ##e^{at}\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}##. Am I correct in assuming that the things under the radical can no longer be simplified?
You are correct. The stuff left under the radical is just another constant anyway.

Now does this expression look like it can be integrated?
 
Yes! I'm assuming ##\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}} ## can be pulled out of the integral and we just have to integrate e^{at}. Doing this integral from 0 to t, I obtained ##\frac{1}{a}e^{at}\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}-\frac{1}{a}\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}##. Does this seem reasonable?
 
yango_17 said:
Yes! I'm assuming ##\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}} ## can be pulled out of the integral and we just have to integrate e^{at}. Doing this integral from 0 to t, I obtained ##\frac{1}{a}e^{at}\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}-\frac{1}{a}\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}##. Does this seem reasonable?
Yes, but I believe this expression can be simplified. :wink:
 
I've arrived at ##\sqrt{2a^{2}+b^{2}}(\frac{1}{a}e^{at}-\frac{1}{a})## by factoring out the 1/a
 
Factoring out the radical i mean