Are chimera embyros potentially viable?

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The discussion centers on the viability of chimera embryos, specifically those created from human and swine cells, and their potential for organ creation. Participants explore the scientific legitimacy of related research and the implications of chimeras in biological studies, touching on historical examples and the challenges of immune response in organ transplantation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether chimera embryos can be viable and develop into individuals, suggesting that this is part of ongoing research.
  • Others confirm the legitimacy of the research published in peer-reviewed journals, noting that prestigious journals like Cell and Nature have covered the topic.
  • One participant mentions the historical context of chimeras in research, indicating that they can grow to adulthood and produce viable germ cells, with examples of chimeric humans resulting from twin embryo fusion.
  • There is a discussion about the challenges of organ transplantation from other species, highlighting the need for immuno-suppression to prevent rejection, and the potential advantage of creating organs in embryos to avoid immune response issues.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of a chimera, emphasizing that it involves distinct sets of chromosomes from two separate zygotes, often within the same species but sometimes across species.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the viability of chimera embryos, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining regarding their potential for development and organ creation.

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Limitations include the complexity of defining chimeras and the nuances of immune response in transplantation, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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I read some of this (its way beyond me).

http://www.cell.com/cell/abstract/S0092-8674(16)31752-4

I was directed to the link from IFLS (google it if you don't know what it is and are curious) so I don't know if its legitimate / peer reviewed stuff or not, but it does read like real research in that for me, it might as well be written in a non-English language.

Basically discusses the creation of a human / swine chimera embyro that developed for a little while.

The goal is organ creation. Is it known that such a chimera cannot be viable and develop into an individual, or is is possible that a chimera might be viable, and assessing that is part of the learning curve?

I am not intending a discussion on ethics, I am curious as to the answer.
 
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The research is definitely legitimate and published in peer-reviewed journals (Cell is one of the most prestigious journals in biology). Other peer-reviewed work on http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature21070.html was recently published in the journal Nature. This is not my area of expertise, so I can't answer the questions about viability, but here are some popular press articles covering the two papers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/science/chimera-stemcells-organs.html?_r=0
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/human-organs-grown-pigs-not-so-fast
 
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Chimeras have a long history in research animals (within and between species).
Depending on the details, they can grow to adults and even create viable germ cells.
There have been examples of chimeric humans (resulting from the fusion of two twin embryos in utero) that can produce offspring.

Transplants of organs from other species into mature humans have been made. These probably require immuno-supression drugs to prevent graft rejection by the immune system.

By making their transplant into an embryo, before the host's immune system develops, the donor cells do not provoke an immune response from their host. However, if these cells were transplanted into a mature human, the human host would most likely provoke an immune response unless immune-suppression was used.

The goal of this research is to be able to grow organs made of human cells in a non-human body so it can be harvested and transplanted into a human.
Ideally, the organ would be made with stem cells obtained from the person being transplanted into.
This should eliminate the possibility of rejection by the immune system.
 
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Chimera in here. Do you mean it as hybrid of animals from different genus?
 
Chimera is defined as one organism with distinct, different sets of chromosomes based on one genome from two separate zygotes. Usually from the same species, but some have been created using genomes from across species, i.e., rat and mouse. Across species usually involves an organ or some biosynthetic pathway.

There is a lot more to a complete understanding, my snippet above is superficial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)

The US federal government has weighed in on it with regard to humans (bill not passed), so has the Council of Churches:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/22/news/la-heb-human-animal-chimeras-20110722
 
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