Are Dual Supermassive Black Holes in Galaxies Rare and Insignificant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the rarity and significance of dual supermassive black holes (SMBHs) in galaxies. Participants explore observational evidence, theoretical implications, and the potential consequences of having two black holes in close proximity within a galaxy.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that only 12 galaxies with dual black holes have been identified, referencing Dr. Julie Comerford's observations of a newly discovered galaxy with one significantly smaller and "naked" black hole.
  • Others clarify that the discussion pertains specifically to supermassive black holes, contrasting them with the numerous stellar black holes found in the Milky Way.
  • One participant suggests that galaxy mergers should lead to many double or even triple SMBH galaxies, but acknowledges that detecting them requires specialized observational efforts.
  • A later reply questions whether any significant consequences have been observed from dual SMBHs, proposing that their effects might be trivial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the rarity and significance of dual SMBHs, with some suggesting they are common but difficult to detect, while others argue that their effects may be minimal. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of dual SMBHs.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on observational techniques for detecting dual SMBHs and the potential for missing cases due to the need for tailored observations. The discussion also reflects varying definitions and understandings of black holes in different contexts.

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Apparently rare - only 12 galaxies are known to exist with two black holes in their midst, according to Dr. Julie Comerford.

Comerford reported a recent observation of a double black hole galaxy at the American Astronomical Society's annual meeting in Kissimmee, Florida. One of the BHs is described as skinny.

But in this newly identified galaxy about 1 billion light-years away, one of the two black holes is significantly smaller than the other and apparently starved of stars. Black holes typically are surrounded by stars; this one appears "naked."
http://news.yahoo.com/rare-galaxy-2-black-holes-1-starved-stars-180552639.html
 
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Galaxy mergers should complete (as far as their stars are concerned) much sooner than their SMBHs finally merge. So there should be lots of double and even triple-SMBH galaxies out there. I guess we know only a few of them because detecting multiple SMBHs in a galaxy core requires dedicated observations tailored to this task.
 
So, the question is, have we observed any bizarre consequences attributable to dual SMBH in the same galaxy? I would say not, and would guess the consequences are typically trivial.
 

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