Are Extra Non-Planck Dimensions Possible and What Could They Mean for the LHC?

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The discussion centers on the potential existence of extra non-Planck dimensions in spacetime and their implications for the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). Participants explore the possibility that these dimensions could be curled at scales larger than the Planck scale, potentially leading to the production of microscopic black holes at the LHC. Key references include the review paper by Kanti (2004) on black holes in theories with large extra dimensions and the work of Lisa Randall on the subject, particularly in her book "Warped Passages." The conversation also touches on the implications for Lorentz invariance and the theoretical motivations behind fixing the scale of these dimensions.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of General Relativity and its implications for spacetime.
  • Familiarity with the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and its experimental capabilities.
  • Knowledge of string theory and its treatment of dimensions.
  • Basic concepts of Grand Unified Theories (GUTs) and their motivations.
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  • Read Kanti 2004, "Black Holes in Theories with Large Extra Dimensions: a Review."
  • Explore Lisa Randall's "Warped Passages," focusing on Chapter 19.
  • Investigate the implications of Lorentz invariance in theories with extra dimensions.
  • Research the experimental signatures of microscopic black holes at the LHC.
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The discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, cosmologists, and researchers interested in high-energy physics, particularly those exploring the implications of extra dimensions and their potential experimental signatures at the LHC.

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There is the possibility that spacetime has more than 4 dimensions, and that the additional dimensions are curled up not at the Planck scale but at some larger scale. There has been some discussion that if these extra dimensions exist, then the LHC might produce microscopic black holes (which would presumably evaporate immediately). I'm interested in getting a broad overview of what this is about, and would be grateful if anyone could point me to a review paper or post any information here.

Is there any physical motivation for assuming these extra dimensions? GUTs?

What fixes the scale of these dimensions? Empirically, it presumably has to be less than the de Broglie wavelength corresponding to a TeV or something, since that's the scale we've probed already. Is there some theoretical motivation for fixing this scale at some value? Is there a hypothetical unification that occurs at some energy higher than the electroweak unification energy, which is ~100 GeV?

In a classical theory, dimensions with wrapped-around topology violate Lorentz invariance (since there's a preferred frame in which the circumference has minimum Lorentz contraction). Would preexisting tests of Lorentz invariance have been blind to this, since it occurs in a dimension they can't detect? I'm not specifically interested in Planck-scale physics here, but as a side note, I assume that string theory somehow dodges this issue, since string theory has Lorentz invariance baked in; is there any elementary way of seeing that the Lorentz-violation argument above *doesn't* apply to string theory?

Is there any reason for disliking the idea, other than "who ordered that?"

If the LHC did produce microscopic black holes, would there be any clear experimental signature of that?

Thanks in advance!

-Ben

[EDIT] Re the side-note about string theory -- if the circumference of a wrapped up Planck-scale dimension could be Lorentz contracted, it seems like you could make it Lorentz contracted by any amount you liked. You could contract it to 10^-100 of the Planck scale. Obviously that would be a problem, since there aren't supposed to be observable lengths below the Planck scale, are there?
 
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As you probably kniow Lisa Randall, Harvard, has done work on large extra dimensions...and discusses them in her book WARPED PASSAGES, ESPECIALLY CHAPTER 19 PAGE 362no math...Maybe you can find excerpts online.

She mentions related work of Arkani-Hamed, Dimopoulos and Davali.
 

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