Are guys growing up fast enough? Should they?

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The discussion revolves around the evolving roles and expectations of men in contemporary society, particularly regarding commitment, family, and personal development. Participants explore cultural shifts that influence men's decisions about marriage, parenthood, and career paths, reflecting on personal experiences and societal observations.

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  • Some participants note a trend of men delaying traditional responsibilities, such as marriage and parenthood, which they argue may not necessarily be negative.
  • Others express a desire for early commitment and stability, contrasting with the more carefree attitudes of their peers.
  • A participant highlights cultural uncertainty regarding male roles, suggesting that traditional qualities expected of men are becoming less relevant.
  • Some contributors discuss the impact of increased freedom on life choices, noting that while it offers more options, it can also lead to instability and confusion about direction.
  • There are reflections on the entrepreneurial nature of modern work, with some suggesting that success in today's economy may not align with traditional male stereotypes.
  • Several participants express feelings of being overwhelmed by the multitude of choices available, leading to discussions about decision-making strategies.
  • One participant critiques an article for lacking substance, indicating a divergence in how participants perceive the value of external commentary on the topic.

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Participants exhibit a range of perspectives, with no clear consensus on whether the changes in male roles are positive or negative. There are competing views on the implications of increased freedom and the nature of modern responsibilities.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reflect personal uncertainties and varying definitions of success, which may depend on individual circumstances and societal expectations. The conversation also touches on the historical context of male roles, suggesting a transition from traditional models to more fluid identities.

  • #61
168 hours per week - 63 sleeping = 105 - 40 working = 65 - 5 commuting = 60 - 7 eating = 53 hrs (OR 5 hours per night for 5 nights + 15 hours per day for 2 days = 55 hrs).

Not doing any social activities or heaven forbid involve children in the equation, using 10/55 = 18% (not far off 10/50 = 20% or 1/5) of ones time for exercise seems a bit over the top for an average 9 to 5 person looking to keep fit (as opposed to muscle development or muscle tone), doesn't it?
 
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  • #62
Zryn said:
168 hours per week - 63 sleeping = 105 - 40 working = 65 - 5 commuting = 60 - 7 eating = 53 hrs (OR 5 hours per night for 5 nights + 15 hours per day for 2 days = 55 hrs).

Not doing any social activities or heaven forbid involve children in the equation, using 10/55 = 18% (not far off 10/50 = 20% or 1/5) of ones time for exercise seems a bit over the top for an average 9 to 5 person looking to keep fit (as opposed to muscle development or muscle tone), doesn't it?

It's all a matter of priorities. Ten hours is a lot for someone who has a full time job and kids. But 5 is doable - you just won't be able to eat whatever you want to, as Dan was alluding to.

I think the best way to approach it is to find an exercise that is fun. That way you kill two birds with one stone, and 20% isn't unreasonable.
 
  • #63
I think the best way to approach it is to find an exercise that is fun

I read somewhere that in the scheme of things, when having sex you may as well be sleeping as far as exercise benefits go (a MET analysis across different activities).
 
  • #64
Zryn said:
I read somewhere that in the scheme of things, when having sex you may as well be sleeping as far as exercise benefits go (a MET analysis across different activities).

Well there's got to be some middle ground between a gymnastics routine, and a couple of snails having a romp :smile:!

Oh what was the OP :redface:?
 
  • #65
lisab said:
Just the little push I needed to go jog a few miles this evening :smile:...bye for now!

How's your iliotibial doing?
 
  • #66
My iliotibials hate me, and I hate them right back! Knuckles up and down until they're glowing red and your eyes are watering seems to help though.
 
  • #67
Dembadon said:
How's your iliotibial doing?

Much better, thanks! I went to several weeks of physical therapy for it, and I'm glad I did.

How's yours?
 
  • #68
Zryn said:
My iliotibials hate me, and I hate them right back! Knuckles up and down until they're glowing red and your eyes are watering seems to help though.

Ouch :frown:
 
  • #69
lisab said:
Much better, thanks! I went to several weeks of physical therapy for it, and I'm glad I did.

How's yours?

That's great news, lisab! :smile:

I'm waiting until next week to run. I've taken about 3 weeks off and stretched (a lot!), iced, and worked on my core strength and hip muscles. I'm crossing my fingers; if I still have issues, I'm going to make an appointment with a sports physician.
 
  • #70
Dembadon said:
That's great news, lisab! :smile:

I'm waiting until next week to run. I've taken about 3 weeks off and stretched (a lot!), iced, and worked on my core strength and hip muscles. I'm crossing my fingers; if I still have issues, I'm going to make an appointment with a sports physician.

What happened to you Demba ?
 
  • #71
DanP said:
What happened to you Demba ?

I aggravated the iliotibial band in my left leg and it has been preventing me from riding and/or running for a few weeks. I can still climb, but my cardio is suffering. I did some low-impact plyometics this week without any issues, so I'm hopeful.
 
  • #72
Dembadon said:
I aggravated the iliotibial band in my left leg and it has been preventing me from riding and/or running for a few weeks. I can still climb, but my cardio is suffering. I did some low-impact plyometics this week without any issues, so I'm hopeful.

Well, sorry to hear that. Fast recovery for you, and for Lisa as well if she still has issues. I also been hurt this year, it took 9 weeks of almost total break from training.
 

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