Are guys growing up fast enough? Should they?

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The discussion centers around a Wall Street Journal article that highlights a trend of men postponing traditional responsibilities and roles, such as marriage and parenthood, often indulging in leisure activities like gaming. Participants express mixed feelings about this shift, noting that while it offers freedom and flexibility, it can lead to instability and societal pressures, particularly for women facing biological clocks. Some contributors share personal experiences, emphasizing a desire for stability and early commitment, while others reflect on the cultural evolution of masculinity and the changing expectations of men in society. The conversation touches on the balance between freedom and responsibility, the impact of modern life on mental health, and the need for self-discovery beyond societal norms. The rise of entrepreneurial lifestyles is also discussed, suggesting a shift from traditional career paths to more flexible, diverse work arrangements. Overall, the dialogue reveals a complex interplay of personal choices, societal expectations, and the evolving definition of masculinity in contemporary culture.
  • #51
Zryn said:
Oh yeah sure Obesity is 'bad', but what I mean is that Obesity just replaced something as the worst affliction of the current day and age. My point is that there is always social problems that get 'fixed' by being replaced with something else equally 'bad', just different from what we're used to. I'm sure there was something equally 'bad' but different in those days.

Ok, but maybe for the first time you can do something about it. It's not cholera or pestilence or god knows what else. Save for some special clinical cases, obesity is a case of sloth and gluttony. You **can choose** not to be obese.

Can't you see what difference this makes ?
 
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  • #52
Physics-Learner said:
hi mcknia07,

the main problem is that males and females get vastly different brainwashing during our first stages of life, thereby creating vastly different desires.

Well, I don't think people are brainwashed otherwise we all would have different views on things. I think it is just a personal choice for most...
 
  • #53
To be honest, I think computers and technology are turning our younger generations, both male and female, into something despicable. Young women live on facebook while young men waste their lives on video games. I see people on dates texting other people instead of talking. It's disgusting.
 
  • #54
To be honest, I think computers and technology are turning our younger generations, both male and female, into something despicable

Tech-zombies!
 
  • #55
DanP said:
Ok, but maybe for the first time you can do something about it. It's not cholera or pestilence or god knows what else. Save for some special clinical cases, obesity is a case of sloth and gluttony. You **can choose** not to be obese.

Can't you see what difference this makes ?

Yeah but does it really matter about choice when you choose not to do something? Dying of the Plague and dying of Obesity is still dead. Look how many Americans are considered obese these days, despite having a choice not to be.

In the end, the kids of today are always seen to be 'doing it wrong' to a section of the populace despite them just doing it differently as pertains to the current times. I'm sure the 60's/70's kids were immature in taking drugs and partying and listening to music and championing free love and the end of the world was nigh then too.

Nothing has changed, because everything has changed. When you get a couple of generations who don't evoke 'back in my day' commentaries, then you'll have something truly odd to worry about.
 
  • #56
PhDorBust said:
To be honest, I think computers and technology are turning our younger generations, both male and female, into something despicable. Young women live on facebook while young men waste their lives on video games. I see people on dates texting other people instead of talking. It's disgusting.

Technology cannot force anyone to lead an irresponsible life. Therefore, it is not the fault of technology, but rather the person who is using technology irresponsibly. People need to take responsibility for their own time management and life decisions. Stop blaming it on technology. You are in charge of your own life!
 
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  • #58
I find being obese is a drag, but the activities leading to obesity are kind of enjoyable. if only one did not lead to the other.
 
  • #59
mathwonk said:
I find being obese is a drag, but the activities leading to obesity are kind of enjoyable. if only one did not lead to the other.

Exercise 10h / week, incorporate exercises like clean and jerks and snatches in your strength program, walk as much as possible and learn to jump rope, and you will have the luxury to eat anything your soul desire. Chocolate ? Any time. Carbs with the wheelbarrow ? Any time :P

It's give some, take some. I love food. Exercising allows me to eat loads and satisfy a great pleasure of my life.
 
  • #60
DanP said:
Exercise 10h / week, incorporate exercises like clean and jerks and snatches in your strength program, walk as much as possible and learn to jump rope, and you will have the luxury to eat anything your soul desire. Chocolate ? Any time. Carbs with the wheelbarrow ? Any time :P

It's give some, take some. I love food. Exercising allows me to eat loads and satisfy a great pleasure of my life.

Just the little push I needed to go jog a few miles this evening :smile:...bye for now!
 
  • #61
168 hours per week - 63 sleeping = 105 - 40 working = 65 - 5 commuting = 60 - 7 eating = 53 hrs (OR 5 hours per night for 5 nights + 15 hours per day for 2 days = 55 hrs).

Not doing any social activities or heaven forbid involve children in the equation, using 10/55 = 18% (not far off 10/50 = 20% or 1/5) of ones time for exercise seems a bit over the top for an average 9 to 5 person looking to keep fit (as opposed to muscle development or muscle tone), doesn't it?
 
  • #62
Zryn said:
168 hours per week - 63 sleeping = 105 - 40 working = 65 - 5 commuting = 60 - 7 eating = 53 hrs (OR 5 hours per night for 5 nights + 15 hours per day for 2 days = 55 hrs).

Not doing any social activities or heaven forbid involve children in the equation, using 10/55 = 18% (not far off 10/50 = 20% or 1/5) of ones time for exercise seems a bit over the top for an average 9 to 5 person looking to keep fit (as opposed to muscle development or muscle tone), doesn't it?

It's all a matter of priorities. Ten hours is a lot for someone who has a full time job and kids. But 5 is doable - you just won't be able to eat whatever you want to, as Dan was alluding to.

I think the best way to approach it is to find an exercise that is fun. That way you kill two birds with one stone, and 20% isn't unreasonable.
 
  • #63
I think the best way to approach it is to find an exercise that is fun

I read somewhere that in the scheme of things, when having sex you may as well be sleeping as far as exercise benefits go (a MET analysis across different activities).
 
  • #64
Zryn said:
I read somewhere that in the scheme of things, when having sex you may as well be sleeping as far as exercise benefits go (a MET analysis across different activities).

Well there's got to be some middle ground between a gymnastics routine, and a couple of snails having a romp :smile:!

Oh what was the OP :redface:?
 
  • #65
lisab said:
Just the little push I needed to go jog a few miles this evening :smile:...bye for now!

How's your iliotibial doing?
 
  • #66
My iliotibials hate me, and I hate them right back! Knuckles up and down until they're glowing red and your eyes are watering seems to help though.
 
  • #67
Dembadon said:
How's your iliotibial doing?

Much better, thanks! I went to several weeks of physical therapy for it, and I'm glad I did.

How's yours?
 
  • #68
Zryn said:
My iliotibials hate me, and I hate them right back! Knuckles up and down until they're glowing red and your eyes are watering seems to help though.

Ouch :frown:
 
  • #69
lisab said:
Much better, thanks! I went to several weeks of physical therapy for it, and I'm glad I did.

How's yours?

That's great news, lisab! :smile:

I'm waiting until next week to run. I've taken about 3 weeks off and stretched (a lot!), iced, and worked on my core strength and hip muscles. I'm crossing my fingers; if I still have issues, I'm going to make an appointment with a sports physician.
 
  • #70
Dembadon said:
That's great news, lisab! :smile:

I'm waiting until next week to run. I've taken about 3 weeks off and stretched (a lot!), iced, and worked on my core strength and hip muscles. I'm crossing my fingers; if I still have issues, I'm going to make an appointment with a sports physician.

What happened to you Demba ?
 
  • #71
DanP said:
What happened to you Demba ?

I aggravated the iliotibial band in my left leg and it has been preventing me from riding and/or running for a few weeks. I can still climb, but my cardio is suffering. I did some low-impact plyometics this week without any issues, so I'm hopeful.
 
  • #72
Dembadon said:
I aggravated the iliotibial band in my left leg and it has been preventing me from riding and/or running for a few weeks. I can still climb, but my cardio is suffering. I did some low-impact plyometics this week without any issues, so I'm hopeful.

Well, sorry to hear that. Fast recovery for you, and for Lisa as well if she still has issues. I also been hurt this year, it took 9 weeks of almost total break from training.
 

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