Are infinitesimal field variations in QFT similar to coordinate components?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the functional derivative in quantum field theory (QFT), specifically the expression ##\frac{\delta \phi(x)}{\delta \phi(y)}=\delta (x-y)##. Participants explore its meaning and implications, particularly in relation to causality and the independence of fields at different points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the meaning of the functional derivative in QFT and its relation to the finite-dimensional analogue of partial derivatives.
  • Another participant suggests integrating both sides with a smooth test function to clarify the functional derivative's meaning.
  • A different participant acknowledges understanding the proof but seeks deeper insight into the implications of the formula, particularly regarding causality.
  • One participant asserts that the formula is merely a basic tool for manipulation without deeper meaning unless contextualized.
  • Another participant posits that the formula indicates that fields at different points are independent, similar to the independence of coordinate components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the formula, with some viewing it as a straightforward manipulation tool while others seek deeper implications. There is no consensus on its broader significance or interpretation.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide a clear context for the implications of the formula, leading to uncertainty about its broader significance in QFT.

Mishra
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Hello,

In the context of QFT, I do not understand the statement:

##\frac{\delta \phi(x)}{\delta \phi(y)}=\delta (x-y)##

I understand the proof which arises from the definition of the functional derivative but I do not get its meaning. From what I see is generalizes ##\frac{\partial q_i}{\partial q_j}=\delta_{ij}## which I am not sure to understand either.

Would somebody be kind enough to explain me ?

I realize this is not a question concerning QFT only but it is where I have the better chance to find a good answer since it is fundamental in that field.VM
 
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Integrate both sides with an arbitrary smooth test function, and simplify both sides, and the functional derivative will make sense. In the finite-dimensional analogue, multiply by arbitrary constants ##c_i## and sum, to see the same.
 
Hello and thank you for your answer.
I understand de proof (at least for fields) of this results. What I do not understand is its meaning, I see a lot of discussion using this (interpretation) to talk about causality for example. What is there to actually understand about this results?
 
Mishra said:
What is there to actually understand about this results?
Nothing more than what I said. It is just a basic formula useful to manipulate other formulas. If something else is to be understood it is in the context that you didn't give, and not in this formula.
 
A. Neumaier said:
Nothing more than what I said. It is just a basic formula useful to manipulate other formulas. If something else is to be understood it is in the context that you didn't give, and not in this formula.

Thanks!
 
As far as I could tell your formula tells you that two fields at different points are considered to be independent, just like two different coordinate components are independent.
 

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