Are spirits affected by laws of physics or forces of nature?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether spirits, particularly those of deceased individuals, are influenced by physical laws and forces of nature, such as gravity and relativity. Participants explore this topic from various angles, including philosophical implications and the nature of evidence.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the existence of spirits, stating that without proof, it is impossible to answer whether they are affected by physical laws.
  • Another participant humorously asserts that spirits, in the context of alcoholic beverages, are affected by gravity, suggesting that they will fall if dropped.
  • A different participant clarifies that they are referring to spirits of deceased individuals and seeks information without requiring belief in their existence.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the seriousness of the inquiry, noting the scientific and atheistic nature of the forum.
  • One participant draws a comparison between the lack of evidence for spirits and the established theories surrounding black holes, emphasizing the need for a consistent theory for spirits.
  • A later reply humorously suggests that spirits are "double invisible," implying a layer of existence that cannot be detected by current human instrumentation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the existence of spirits or their potential interaction with physical laws. Multiple competing views remain, with some taking a humorous or skeptical stance while others seek more serious discourse.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of seriousness regarding the topic, and there are unresolved assumptions about the nature of spirits and the criteria for evidence. The discussion reflects a blend of humor and skepticism towards the subject matter.

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If anyone of you know a thing or two about spirits if they are affected by forces of nature like gravity, wind, matter, etc.

Not that you have witnessed or experienced beforehand but maybe you possesses 2nd hand knowledge regarding this matter. Also not that they are real, I just want info whether it's fiction or not.

Are they affected by relativity, and black holes too?? :)
 
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First, there is no proof of existence of anything referred to as spirits. This makes answering any of your questions impossible.

Sorry.
 
Yes, spirits ARE affected by gravity. You want proof? Drop some spirits out of a window. Doesn't matter which spirit you use, vodka, gin, whatever. It WILL fall.
 
tribdog said:
Yes, spirits ARE affected by gravity. You want proof? Drop some spirits out of a window. Doesn't matter which spirit you use, vodka, gin, whatever. It WILL fall.
My bad, yes some spirits are affected, such as spirit of turpentine.
 
I wonder if you asked the same question at psychicforums if they would say "First, there is no proof of existence of anything referred to as black holes. This makes answering any of your questions impossible.

Sorry."
 
Oh I mean spirits of dead people. You don't have to believe those to answer my questions. I just want to know if you read something that mentions about it or heard someone talk about it.

This doesn't need to be so serious. But don't invent stories/ideas pls.

@tribdog, exactly why I asked here.
 
gaming_addict said:
Oh I mean spirits of dead people. You don't have to believe those to answer my questions. I just want to know if you read something that mentions about it or heard someone talk about it.

This doesn't need to be so serious. But don't invent stories/ideas pls.

@tribdog, exactly why I asked here.

I'm a spirit and I'm affected by gravity. :cool: I wish I weren't.
 
If its not serious than how do you expect even REMOTELY serious answers on this predominantly scientific and furthermore, atheist, forum?
 
binzing said:
If its not serious than how do you expect even REMOTELY serious answers on this predominantly scientific and furthermore, atheist, forum?

Considering that fact...does Laplace's demon count?
 
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tribdog said:
I wonder if you asked the same question at psychicforums if they would say "First, there is no proof of existence of anything referred to as black holes. This makes answering any of your questions impossible.

Sorry."
Hey! Atleast there's a consistent (for all practical purposes) theory (with very reasonable support by other means) for black holes! Spirits (not the liquid kind) have none!
This is a wake-up call for psychics- get a consistent theory, then look for 'evidence'. XD
 
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yasiru89 said:
Hey! Atleast there's a consistent (for all practical purposes) theory (with very reasonable support by other means) for black holes! Spirits (not the liquid kind) have none!
This is a wake-up call for psychics- get a consistent theory, then look for 'evidence'. XD

Call in the Ghostbusters.
 
  • #12
gaming_addict said:
If anyone of you know a thing or two about spirits if they are affected by forces of nature like gravity, wind, matter, etc.

Not that you have witnessed or experienced beforehand but maybe you possesses 2nd hand knowledge regarding this matter. Also not that they are real, I just want info whether it's fiction or not.

Are they affected by relativity, and black holes too?? :)

play less games!
 
  • #13
Spirits cannot be detected for their existence because they're double invisible. They exist underneath the layer of invisibility which cannot be detected yet by human instrumentation.
 
  • #14
I think we've said all we can say. Thread closed.
 

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