Are steam-powered cars making a comeback?

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The discussion revolves around the potential resurgence of steam-powered cars, sparked by a recent world record set by a steam car. Participants explore various aspects of steam car technology, historical context, and performance comparisons with modern vehicles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a steam-powered car recently achieved a speed of 139mph, surpassing a century-old record, and speculates on the potential for performance improvements over time.
  • Another participant questions the logistics of coal storage in steam cars, referencing a related article in a Mechanical Design publication.
  • A humorous suggestion is made about the possibility of using a trailer and a person shoveling coal to fuel the car during operation.
  • A participant shares an anecdote about encountering a Stanley Steamer, highlighting concerns about water vapor emissions as a road hazard in humid conditions.
  • Discussion includes a note on the historical inefficiency of steam cars due to long warm-up times, which deterred users from short trips.
  • Contrasting this, another participant mentions the 1925 Doble model, which could warm up in just two minutes, suggesting that not all steam cars had the same limitations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the efficiency and practicality of steam-powered cars, particularly regarding warm-up times and emissions. There is no consensus on whether steam cars could realistically make a comeback.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the efficiency and performance of steam cars depend on specific models and historical context, which may not apply universally to all steam vehicles.

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A steam powered car just set a new world record of 139mph, beating a 101 year old record of 126mph.
With this level of progress it is predicted that the performance of steam cars could double every millennium.

http://www.steamcar.co.uk/images/refuelling.jpg
Here a team of stokers set a new steam-F1 record for a pitstop of only 1 hour !
 
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Where did they put the coal?

There was an article on this car in one of the recent Mechanical Design issues.
 
I assume a small trailer and a guy frantically shoveling!
 
A while back, I was out for a leisurely drive in the country on a windless humid Sunday morning. I ran into a fog hovering over the road. I finally saw the source: an old Stanley Steamer out for a leisurely drive on a Sunday morning. Too much water vapor emission is a road hazard on humid days.

[Added note] The Stanley Steamer did not have a condenser tube to capture the exhaust vapor and recycle the water until 1915. This increased the range considerably.
 
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Actually the old steamers were efficient, clean and reliable, compared to the internal combustion engines of the day - - - but it had one fatal flaw. No one wanted to wait a long time for the car to warm up - - - just to take a short trip.

KM
 
Kenneth Mann said:
- - - but it had one fatal flaw. No one wanted to wait a long time for the car to warm up - - - just to take a short trip.

KM

Not the 1925 Doble. Took only two minutes to get cranking:

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=213453



This one is fun - a Stanley - especially at 9:48... ;-)

http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/clips/1909-model-r-stanley-steamer/188300/
 
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