Area of an equilateral triangle

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of an equilateral triangle given a point inside it and the distances from that point to the vertices. Participants explore methods using the Law of Sines and Law of Cosines, as well as Heron's Formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem of finding the area of an equilateral triangle with a point inside it, specifying the distances from the point to the vertices.
  • Another participant suggests showing work and begins to apply the Law of Cosines, although they express confusion over the notation used for angles and sides.
  • Some participants propose using Heron's Formula after determining the side lengths of the triangle, indicating that it may be useful once the necessary values are found.
  • There is a suggestion to evaluate one side of the triangle first, as knowing one side would allow for the use of Heron's Formula more easily.
  • A later reply hints at constructing an equilateral triangle on one of the segments to find congruent triangles and apply the Law of Cosines.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods for solving the problem, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the specific application of the Laws of Sines and Cosines. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on how to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not yet established the necessary side lengths or angles, which are crucial for applying the proposed formulas. There is also uncertainty regarding the application of the Law of Sines and Cosines in this context.

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Given an equilateral triangle ABC, P is any point inside it where PA = 3, PB = 4 and PC = 5.
Find area of the triangle using the Law of Sines or Law of Cosines.
 
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What ideas have you had so far?
 
Peking Man said:
Given an equilateral triangle ABC, P is any point inside it where PA = 3, PB = 4 and PC = 5.
Find area of the triangle using the Law of Sines or Law of Cosines.

I know you're new around here ;) , so you might not know that it is preferable to show work. (That might be in the rules...)

So I'll get the ball rolling.

Letting a , b, c be the (equal) sides of the "big" triangle and A, B, C the angles formed by... oh dear, I have confused the letters. If the verteces of the outer triangle were renamed...
we have
c^2 = 3^2 + 4^2 - 2(3)(4)cos(C)
etc.
but c^2 = b^2 = a^2 and A + B + C = 360

Can you take it from here?
 
Heron's Formula may come in handy here, once you have used the Sine Rule and/or Cosine Rule to evaluate the side lengths of the triangle. If a, b, c are the side lengths of your triangle, then

$$ Area = \sqrt{s(s - a)(s - b)(s - c)} $$

where $$ s = \frac{a + b + c}{2} $$
 
Prove It said:
Heron's Formula may come in handy here, once you have used the Sine Rule and/or Cosine Rule to evaluate the side lengths of the triangle. If a, b, c are the side lengths of your triangle, then

$$ Area = \sqrt{s(s - a)(s - b)(s - c)} $$

where $$ s = \frac{a + b + c}{2} $$

- the teacher said, the Law of Cosines or Law of Sines is enough to solve the problem, but how?

---------- Post added at 11:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 PM ----------

Area = (ab/2)sin C = (ac/2)sin B = (bc/2)sin A, and a = b = c. the only missing value is the side of the equilateral triangle ... the application of the Law of Sines and Cosines eludes me so far.

I followed CHAZ suuggestions, but three more internal angles remained unknown ... i have more problems to deal then.
 
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Can you evaluate ONE side of the equilateral triangle? If you have one side, you have them all. Then you can use Heron's Formula (much easier)...
 
This is really a classic problem.
Here's a Hint:

Construct an equilateral triangle on side AP, look for a congruent triangle and use Law of Cosines.
 

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