Argument of the Perihelion Projection

In summary, the equation LP = w + N in Celestial Mechanics can be confusing as "w" is on the Elliptic Plane with a tilt of "i" Inclination from the Ecliptic Plane at "N", causing a discrepancy in projection onto the x-y axis of the Ecliptic Plane. However, this is how the LP is defined and it avoids singularities that occur with a 0 inclination or eccentricity. The conversion process from Equinoctial elements to Keplerian elements may yield incorrect values for certain parameters, but the sum of the two will always be correct. This has been a topic of discussion in the scientific community.
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In Celestial Mechanics the equation:

LP = w + N (Longitude of the Perihelion = Argument of the Perihelion + Longitude of the Ascending Node)

is confusing.
Both "LP" and "N" are on the Ecliptic Plane but "w" is not.
"w" is on the Elliptic Plane with a tilt of "i" Inclination from the Ecliptic Plane at "N".
Even though "i" is small then projection of "w" onto the x-y axis of the Ecliptic Plane is different than just plain "w".
How do you explain for this discrepancy?
 
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Philosophaie said:
In Celestial Mechanics the equation:

LP = w + N (Longitude of the Perihelion = Argument of the Perihelion + Longitude of the Ascending Node)

is confusing.
Both "LP" and "N" are on the Ecliptic Plane but "w" is not.
"w" is on the Elliptic Plane with a tilt of "i" Inclination from the Ecliptic Plane at "N".
Even though "i" is small then projection of "w" onto the x-y axis of the Ecliptic Plane is different than just plain "w".
How do you explain for this discrepancy?

If you rotate your orbit plane by the inclination prior to adding the Argument of the Perihelion + Longitude of the Ascending Node together, then they will be in the same plane. In other words, you're inventing a new coordinate system whose fundamental plane matches the orbit plane, and the angle between the fundamental plane of your new coordinate system is separated from the ecliptic plane by an angle equal to your inclination.

The new coordinate system avoids singularities that occur when the inclination is 0 and/or the eccentricity is 0. And what you're showing is roughly how to convert the elements of your new coordinate system into something more familiar.

There will be some quirks in the conversion, but the converted elements will still point to the location of the object you're interested in. For example, if you're talking about circular satellite orbits around the Earth, the conversion process from Equinoctial elements (with no singularities) to Keplerian elements (that can't be created when eccentricity and/or incination is 0) will probably yield incorrect values for the argument of perigee and the true anomaly. However, the sum of the two (the argument of latitude) will always be correct.
 

1. What is the Argument of the Perihelion Projection?

The Argument of the Perihelion Projection is a term used in astronomy to describe the angle between the ascending node and the perihelion point of an orbit. It is an important parameter in determining the shape and orientation of an orbit.

2. How is the Argument of the Perihelion Projection calculated?

The Argument of the Perihelion Projection is calculated by subtracting the longitude of the ascending node from the longitude of the perihelion. This value is typically measured in degrees and can be positive or negative depending on the direction of the orbit.

3. Why is the Argument of the Perihelion Projection important?

The Argument of the Perihelion Projection is important because it helps to determine the position of a celestial object along its orbit. It also provides information about the shape and orientation of the orbit, which can be used to make predictions about future positions and movements of the object.

4. How does the Argument of the Perihelion Projection affect planetary orbits?

The Argument of the Perihelion Projection affects planetary orbits by influencing the amount of eccentricity in the orbit. A higher value for this parameter can result in a more elliptical orbit, while a lower value can result in a more circular orbit. This can have implications for the stability and longevity of a planet's orbit.

5. Can the Argument of the Perihelion Projection change over time?

Yes, the Argument of the Perihelion Projection can change over time due to various factors such as gravitational interactions with other objects, tidal forces, and the effects of relativity. This change can be small or significant depending on the specific circumstances and can have an impact on the overall dynamics of an orbit.

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