Arithmetic progression used to determine geometric progression

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The problem involves an arithmetic progression with 9 terms, where the first term is 1 and the sum of the terms is 369. A geometric progression with 9 terms is also considered, where the first term is equal to the first term of the arithmetic progression. The task is to find the seventh term of the geometric progression.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the common difference of the arithmetic progression and subsequently find the terms of the geometric progression. Questions arise regarding the manipulation of equations and the validity of the steps taken to derive the seventh term of the geometric progression.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the steps taken in the calculations, particularly focusing on the exponent rules and the transition between equations. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the original poster's reasoning, and guidance is being offered to review exponent laws without reaching a consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's calculated value for the seventh term of the geometric progression and the answer provided in a reference book, prompting further exploration of the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


an arithmetic progression(a1-a9) has 9 numbers.
a1 equals 1
The combination(S) of all of the numbers of the arithmetic progression is 369

a geometric progression(b1-b9) also has 9 numbers.
b1 equals a1(1)
b9 equals a9(unknown)

find b7

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basically I use Sn = ((2*a1 + (n-1)*d)/2)*n
and I get 369 = 9 + 36*d; d = 10
then I find a9:
a9 = a1 + 8*d
a9 = 1 + 80 = 81; and I know b9 equals a9, so b9 = 81
then with the formula for the geometric progression I do:
bn = b1*q^(n-1)
b9 = 1*q^8
81 = q^8
9 = q^7
3 = q^6; which should be b7, however in the book's answers, it's not '3', but '27'.How is that even possible if b1 is said to be '1'?
 
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How did you go from 81 = q8 to 9 = q7 to 3 = q6?

It looks like one side you were taking the square root of, and the other side you were dividing by q, which is definitely not the same operation
 
oh yeah, sorry about that, so it seems that squaring them isn't the way to proceed anyway, can you offer a tip?
 
Hivoyer said:
oh yeah, sorry about that, so it seems that squaring them isn't the way to proceed anyway, can you offer a tip?

You should review the laws of exponents. ##(a^m)^n = a^{mn}##, for instance.

So ##q^8 = 81##. What's ##q^4##? What's ##q^2##? And therefore what's ##q^6##?
 

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