ASTM A500 Grade B Square Tubing: Safely Supporting 180 lbs. Over 12 ft.

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The discussion revolves around the structural integrity of 3" OD x .250" wall ASTM A500 Grade B square tubing used to support a single point load of 180 lbs over a 12 ft span. The context includes considerations for safety factors, load applications, and deflection limits in a practical setting involving a speaker system in a gym.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the tubing can safely carry the load, asking for details on the application and safety factors.
  • Another participant provides context that the tubing will be used to suspend a speaker system across roof trusses, specifying that the trusses are bolted at each end and are rated to support the load.
  • The same participant expresses a preference for a 5:1 safety factor for suspended speakers and inquires about acceptable deflection limits.
  • A later reply suggests that the setup should work, providing a quick calculation indicating a bending stress of less than 5 ksi and a safety factor of about 9 against yield, while noting a deflection of less than 1/4".
  • This reply also includes a disclaimer regarding responsibility for the design of the beam and its connections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of confidence regarding the safety and design of the setup, with some agreeing that it should work under specified conditions, while others raise questions about safety factors and deflection limits. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact parameters for safe implementation.

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Limitations include the lack of specific calculations for deflection limits and the dependence on the design of end connections. The discussion does not resolve the uncertainties surrounding safety factors and load distribution.

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Individuals involved in structural engineering, construction, or event planning, particularly those working with suspended loads in gymnasiums or similar environments.

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Will 3"od X .250" wall ASTM A500 Grade B square tubing safely carry a single point load of 180lbs. over a 12ft span.

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It should, depending on proper end connection(s) design, but what's
the application? Cantilever or supported at both ends? What safety factor do you need? Deflection limitations? PLEASE ELABORATE.
 
We are suspending a speaker system in a gym. The tubing will span across 2 roof trusses and be bolted in place at each end. The speakers will be suspended using a "fly bar" that attaches to the speakers which is load rated by the speaker manufacture. The roof trusses should be more than enough to carry the load. I believe they are 5ft trusses. We like to have a 5:1 safety factor for suspended speakers. We always use load rated chain and shackles for hardware. Not sure how much deflection would be allowed, I guess that's what my question really is.

Thanks
 
Yes, that will work. A quick calc with the speaker suspended at the middle of the span indicates a bending stress of less than 5 ksi which has a safety factor about 9 against yield and a deflection at mid span of less than 1/4". Be sure to connect the ends close to a joint on the trusses.
Disclaimer: This author claims no responsibility for the proper design of the beam and its connections.
 

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