Atom of Argon Charge: Help with Electron Work

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The discussion revolves around the ionization of an argon atom and the subsequent properties of the resulting ion. Participants are exploring the number of protons and neutrons in the ion, as well as calculating the charge after the removal of electrons. Additionally, there is a related question about beta decay involving a uranium nucleus.

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the number of protons and neutrons in the ionized argon atom and are questioning the calculations related to the charge after electron removal. There is also a discussion about the concept of constituent particles and their properties in the context of beta decay.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and concepts, while others are still exploring their understanding of the questions posed. There is a mix of correct and uncertain reasoning, with no explicit consensus reached on all points.

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A little help with electron work

Hi, I'm new and I was wondering if anyone could help me with this

An atom of argon

37
Ar
18

is ionised by the removal of 2 orbiting electons.
In the ion there will be..

a) ______ protons and ______ neutrons

b) So what is the charge in C of this ion?

__
note, having tried this I got 18 protons and 18 neutrons but have no clue about b and I'm not sure if a is true.
Thankyou if anyone can assist me, I'd be very greatful indeed.
 
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18 + 18 = 36. But the number above the symbol is 37. So, 18 protons plus how many neutrons will give you 37 "nucleons"?

No clue about b? How many electrons are missing? (2) . What the charge of each electron?
 
19 neutrons? thanks.

Also, for b would it be double the charge of an electron?
2 x 1.6x10^-19?

Also, can I ask what a constituent particle is?
it says ask for one for this ion that has
a zero charge per unit mass ration
and the largest charge per unit mass ratio.
 
2 x "e" that's correct. You might need to specify that the net charge is positive, since the ion is missing electrons.

As for the second part: talk about an obtuse way of stating the question. "Constituent particle" is referring to the three fundamental particles that make up atoms (electron protons and neutrons).

The question asks: "Which particle has no net charge (regardless of it's mass), and which particle has least mass."
 
thankyou very much for your help. :)

I have another problem that is troubling me in this paper
A

239
92 U

nucleus may decay by emitting to beta- particles to form a plutonium nucleus.

X
Y P

State what Xand Y represent and their values.

Well I think that X would be the number of nucleons and Y the number of protons but I'm puzzled as to how I'd solve it.
 
Do you know what happens in "beta decay"? OK I'll tell you. A neutron "changes into" (the whole story is advanced and more complicated) a proton and ejects a high-speed electron (that's the beta particle). Does the X number change? HOw about the Y number?

(By the way, what you call "X" should be called "A," and what you call "Y" shoulc be called "Z." The A number is the nucleons or mass number, the Z number is the protons or charge number.)
 

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