Attaching Wheels & Axles: A How-To Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction of a custom vehicle utilizing two wheels attached to an axle, with considerations for a free hub mechanism and steering design. Participants explore various mechanical configurations, including the use of chain sprockets and hubs, while addressing the challenges of steering and stability.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on attaching two wheels to an axle with a free hub for continuous rotation after pedaling.
  • Another participant questions the design intent, suggesting the use of a chain sprocket system and an overrunning clutch for the axle.
  • A participant clarifies their intention to create a tricycle-like vehicle with pedals controlling the rear wheels, expressing a desire for assistance in the project.
  • Some participants propose using an existing chain sprocket system, noting it would function similarly to a bicycle with three wheels.
  • One participant admits to having limited knowledge about the components needed, asking for clarification on hubs and sprockets.
  • Another participant suggests that new sprockets may be necessary to fit the axle and discusses options for mounting gear clusters.
  • A participant mentions the complexity of using existing gear clusters and the potential for increased unreliability.
  • One participant shifts their design to a configuration with one rear wheel and two front wheels, questioning the feasibility of steering with this setup.
  • Another participant supports the idea of two front wheels for better cornering stability and discusses the handling issues associated with driven wheels on a solid axle.
  • A suggestion is made to research 'pedicabs' for design inspiration and specifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best design approach, with some favoring the two-front-wheel configuration for stability, while others highlight potential challenges with driven wheels on a solid axle. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal design and components needed.

Contextual Notes

Participants have varying levels of familiarity with mechanical components, leading to different interpretations of the necessary systems for the project. Some assumptions about the design's functionality and the required parts remain unaddressed.

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I've got two 14 inch wheels and now I need to attach them so that they rotate on one axle. I also need to put a free hub so that when I stop peddling the wheels keep rotating.

How would I do this. I really need to know even if it's a stupid question.
 
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I don't really get what you are saying. Are those two wheels on the axle driven by pedalling? What is it you are making?

If you are usign a chain sprocket design to drive the axle, you can just ratchet the pedals.(means you can't go backwards though)

You could also use an overrunning clutch system if you are using shafts.
 
Well, I'm sort of tying to make something like a bicycle but instead of one back wheel, it's two wheels attached to an axle. I know that's pretty much a tricycle but I think that they have pedals at the front wheel. Instead I'm trying to make something like it except the pedals control the back like a bicycle.

I'm just doing this for fun. I wanted to do this from scratch but I guess it helps telling you what I'm doing. So if you understood what I meant can you help me?
 
Then its very easy to do. Just use the existing chain sprocket system, it'll already have a ratchet on it.

It'll work exactly the same way as a bicycle on with 3 wheels. :DI can see the steering and handling being... interesting on it.
 
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I'm sorry I'm sort of an idiot.

I have two wheels but nothing else. I'm guessing I need two hubs, some metal rod I can call an axle and a chain sprocket system. Do I buy the chain sprocket system or what? It's just that you said use the existing chain sprocket system that confused me, because again I only have two wheels.
 
By the way,

If it helps I just got into this today when I found two wheels that I bought but never used. Before today I had no idea what a hub, racket, or a chain sprocket system. I just googled as i went. So go easy on me :shy:
 
I just meant the same type of system. Of driving sprocket attachec to the wheels and wheel gear cluser attached to the axle.

You'll probably have to buy new sprockets to build a rear cluser that fits the axle. Or you could try to jury rig the existing cluster to fit.

A third option is to use the existing gear cluster from the bike, and mount them somewhere convenient. Have them rotate a shaft with a second sprocket on it and run this to the rear axle with a 1:1 ratio. This means you only need to find 1 sprocket to fit the new axle, but it adds complxity (and therefore unreliability).


Ahh a layperson :D, in that case if there is anything I gloss over, or you don't understand or whatever just let me know and i'll try to explain it better.

Please note I am a dreadful teacher, so you'll have to bear with me.
 
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I've decided that instead I'm going to make one wheel in the back and two wheels in the front. I think it'll make it simpler. By the way, just to let you know it's not going to be ridden like a bicycle.

I just want to know if it's a good idea to steer with two wheels like a car with one wheel in the back.
 
It's definitely better to steer with 2 wheels at the front, it gives cornering stability.

Normally in faster turns you lean into the turn with 1 wheel, which obviosly you can't do an a tricycle.

Also 2 driven wheels from 1 solid axle had the effect of not allowing the wheels to turn at their own rate when going torund a corner. This means you'll get scuffing of the tyres.2 steered wheels presents fewer handling problems than 2 driven.
 
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Try Googling 'pedicab'. Wiki has a starter article, but you'll need to search elsewhere for design specs.
 

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