Can Methane and Citric Acid be Balanced in a Redox Reaction?

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The discussion centers on balancing a redox reaction involving methane (CH4) and citric acid (C6H8O7), both of which convert to carbon dioxide (CO2). The oxidation states were calculated, revealing that carbon in citric acid transitions from +6 to +4 (reduction), while carbon in methane transitions from -4 to +4 (oxidation). The user struggled with combining the half-reactions due to an incorrect assumption about the nature of the reactions, ultimately realizing that both half-reactions were oxidation processes, rendering the overall reaction nonsensical. Clarification was provided on the variability of oxidation states within a single molecule.

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Hi there:

I'm trying to balance a reaction in which methane is oxidized by citric acid in solution. Both methane and citric acid will be transformed into carbon dioxide. To begin, I checked that the reaction is indeed a redox reaction.

C6H8O7→CO2

So, I calculated the oxidation number for carbon goes from +6 to +4. A reduction.

CH4→CO2

I calculated the oxidation number for carbon goes from -4 to +4. An oxidation. This seems reasonable so far. Then, I balanced my half-reactions.

C6H8O7+5H2O→6CO2+18H++18e-

CH4+2H2O→CO2+8H++8e-

Now comes the part that has me baffled. How do I combine these half-reactions and not end up with loads of electrons since they are on the right hand side of both half-reactions?! Clearly, I've done something very wrong. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Danny.Boy said:
So, I calculated the oxidation number for carbon goes from +6 to +4

Which carbon?
 
Borek said:
Which carbon?
I meant the citric acid carbon, but clearly I've miscalculated. Consequently, both half reactions are actually oxidation reactions and the overall reaction is nonsensical.
 
Danny.Boy said:
I meant the citric acid carbon

Oxidation number is a property of a single atom, it is quite possible for different atoms of an element to have different oxidation numbers in the molecule, hence your initial statement didn't make much sense

Technically it is not impossible to both oxidize the methane and reduce the citric acid at the same time, producing a "redox reaction". I doubt it would be spontaneous though.
 

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