Being a engineering grad can do m.sc and phd in physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility of pursuing a Master's (M.Sc) and Ph.D. in physics for someone with a background in engineering, specifically civil engineering. Participants explore the necessary prerequisites, challenges, and personal experiences related to transitioning from engineering to physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that it is possible to pursue an M.Sc in physics with an engineering background, suggesting that many branches of physics can be accessible.
  • Others argue that transitioning to physics from civil engineering may require additional coursework in fundamental physics topics such as Classical Mechanics, Thermal and Statistical Physics, Electrodynamics, Quantum Mechanics, and Special Relativity.
  • One participant emphasizes the difference between having an interest in physics and engaging in actual physics research, suggesting that the latter is significantly more challenging.
  • Concerns are raised about the theoretical nature of physics courses compared to the application-focused nature of engineering classes, indicating that engineering students may lack exposure to certain physics topics.
  • Some participants mention that certain colleges offer common courses that could bridge the gap for engineering students, potentially easing the transition into physics.
  • A historical reference is made to notable physicists who transitioned from engineering to physics, though it is noted that the context and requirements may have changed since then.
  • There is a suggestion that improving written English skills is important for success in higher education in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the challenges and requirements for an engineering graduate to pursue higher studies in physics. While some believe it is feasible with sufficient preparation, others highlight significant hurdles that may exist. No consensus is reached regarding the ease or difficulty of this transition.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific physics topics that may not be covered in an engineering curriculum, indicating a potential gap in knowledge that could affect the ability to pursue physics research. The discussion also reflects varying educational systems and requirements, particularly between different countries.

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Hi frndz.iam sudheer b.tech 2nd year civil engineering.actually iam very interested in physics and want to pursue higher studies in the field of physics.i want to knw whether i being a engineering grad can do m.sc and phd in physics ?
 
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u can pursue MS in any branch of physics.
 
frm which college r u pursuing your btech buddy??
 
vishal007win said:
u can pursue MS in any branch of physics.

You have to be kidding right ?
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As for the thread starter, doing MSc/PhD in Physics with engineering background will not be easy, you would have to make up for a number of classes.
Bare in mind, you are not the only one who has an interest in Physics, but having an interest is something and working with actual physics research is something else.

There are some stuff in civil engineering that might relate to "computational physics". But with a bare bachelor of civil engineering you can't really go for physics. I don't want to turn you down, but there are certain topics that you must know: Classical Mechanics (I don't mean Newton laws, but Lagrange and Hamilton's formulations), Thermal and Statistical Physics, Electrodynamics, Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity.
If you can make up for those (e.g. attending lectures at the physics department), then you might stand a chance.
 
physiker_192 said:
Bare in mind, you are not the only one who has an interest in Physics, but having an interest is something and working with actual physics research is something else.

dat was a bit rude, physiker and really demotivating.
if one has done sufficient amount of courses in physics, background doesn't matter.
there are some colleges, where they teach half of courses you specified as common courses for students of all the branches, Classical mechanics, Thermodynamics, Electrodynamics, etc
so it is not much of a problem.
 
Physics courses are notorious for being heavy on the theory, light on the application. The opposite is true of most engineering classes, so physiker is right in most respects. The most common example I would say is thermodynamics. Of course, there are a bunch of classes that you will be missing completely as an engineering major. As far as I'm aware, quantum mechanics, optics, and e&m theory aren't in the engineering curriculum.

Then again, this is from the perspective of an American. Just know that there are specific requirements you need to pursue physics research, you can't 'wing' it in research. You're second year, why can't you just take some extra classes (not sure if they have minors in India where I'm assuming you're from) in physics? If you do that you don't have much to worry about.

And yes, physics research is different than popular novels. It's tough and can be tedious, so be aware of that.
 
On a side note, I should mention that Dirac did Electrical engineering then went on to Mathematics, and Wigner did Chemical engineering.
 
physiker_192 said:
On a side note, I should mention that Dirac did Electrical engineering then went on to Mathematics, and Wigner did Chemical engineering.

That was something like 90 years ago, the way things work is a bit different now. And you probably aren't Dirac. Not to say it can't be done , but it is difficult.
 
I do not intend this to be a rude comment- but one thing you should absolutely do if you plan on pursuing higher education in physics is to work on improving your written English.
 
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Thank u friends for ur views.@vishal007 iam frm national institute of technology ,silchar @fss thanks i would definitely
 

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