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The discussion focuses on the use of supremum in proving that a sequence is Cauchy within a complete metric space. It establishes that if the limit of the supremum of distances between sequence elements does not approach zero, a contradiction arises from the derived inequalities involving a lower semicontinuous function. The participants clarify the definition of the sequence and the justification for certain inequalities, emphasizing that as the sequence progresses, the supremum must eventually yield negative results, which is impossible. Questions about the nature of the supremum and the boundedness of the distance set are also raised, indicating a need for further understanding of these concepts in the context of metric spaces. The conversation highlights the intricacies involved in the proof and the importance of rigorous definitions in mathematical analysis.
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Let $\left(E,d\right)$ be a complete metric space, and $T,S:E\to E$ two mappings such that for all $x,y\in E$,

$d\left(Tx,Sy\right)\le M\left(x,y\right)-\varphi\left(M\left(x,y\right)\right)$,

where $\varphi:[0,\infty)\to [0,\infty)$ is a lower semicontinuous function with $\varphi\left(t\right)>0$ for $t\in(0,\infty)$ and $\varphi(0)=0$ $M(x,y)=max\left\{d(x,y), d(Tx,x),d(Sy,y),\frac{1}{2}\left[d(y,Tx)+d(x,Sy)\right]\right\}$

Proof of cauchy sequence

We will show that $\left\{{x}_{n}\right\}$ is Cauchy sequence. Let

${c}_{n}=sup\left\{d\left({x}_{j},{x}_{k}\right):j,k\ge n\right\}$. Then ${c}_{n}$ is decreasing. İf $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}{c}_{n}=0$, then we are done. Assume that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}{c}_{n}=c>0$. Choose $\varepsilon<\frac{c}{8}$ small enough and select $N$ such that for all $n\ge N$.

$d\left({x}_{n+1},{x}_{n}\right)<\varepsilon$ and ${c}_{n}<c+\varepsilon$. By the definition of ${c}_{N+1}$, there exists $m,n\ge N+1$ such that $d\left({x}_{m},{x}_{n}\right)>{c}_{n}-\varepsilon \ge c-\varepsilon$. Replace ${x}_{m}$ by ${x}_{m+1}$ if necessary. We may assume that $m$ is even, $n$ is odd, and $d\left({x}_{m},{x}_{n}\right)>c-2\varepsilon$. Then $d\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right)>c-4\varepsilon$, and $d\left({x}_{m},{x}_{n}\right)=d\left(T{x}_{m-1},S{x}_{n-1}\right)\le M\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right)-\varphi\left(M\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right)\right)$
$\le max\left\{d\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right),\varepsilon,\varepsilon,\frac{1}{2}\left[d\left({x}_{n-1},{x}_{m}\right)+d\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n}\right)\right]\right\}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)$. We have proved that ${c}_{N}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)>{c}_{N+1}$ (if $\varepsilon$ is small enough). This is impossible. Thus, we must have $c=0$

Question: How ${c}_{N}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)>{c}_{N+1}$ is condratiction ? I didnt understand...Please can you help me ? Thank you for your attention...Best wishes :)
 
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ozkan12 said:
Let $\left(E,d\right)$ be a complete metric space, and $T,S:E\to E$ two mappings such that for all $x,y\in E$,

$d\left(Tx,Sy\right)\le M\left(x,y\right)-\varphi\left(M\left(x,y\right)\right)$,

where $\varphi:[0,\infty)\to [0,\infty)$ is a lower semicontinuous function with $\varphi\left(t\right)>0$ for $t\in(0,\infty)$ and $\varphi(0)=0$ $M(x,y)=max\left\{d(x,y), d(Tx,x),d(Sy,y),\frac{1}{2}\left[d(y,Tx)+d(x,Sy)\right]\right\}$

Proof of cauchy sequence

We will show that $\left\{{x}_{n}\right\}$ is Cauchy sequence. Let

${c}_{n}=sup\left\{d\left({x}_{j},{x}_{k}\right):j,k\ge n\right\}$. Then ${c}_{n}$ is decreasing. İf $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}{c}_{n}=0$, then we are done. Assume that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}{c}_{n}=c>0$. Choose $\varepsilon<\frac{c}{8}$ small enough and select $N$ such that for all $n\ge N$.

$d\left({x}_{n+1},{x}_{n}\right)<\varepsilon$ and ${c}_{n}<c+\varepsilon$. By the definition of ${c}_{N+1}$, there exists $m,n\ge N+1$ such that $d\left({x}_{m},{x}_{n}\right)>{c}_{n}-\varepsilon \ge c-\varepsilon$. Replace ${x}_{m}$ by ${x}_{m+1}$ if necessary. We may assume that $m$ is even, $n$ is odd, and $d\left({x}_{m},{x}_{n}\right)>c-2\varepsilon$. Then $d\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right)>c-4\varepsilon$, and $d\left({x}_{m},{x}_{n}\right)=d\left(T{x}_{m-1},S{x}_{n-1}\right)\le M\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right)-\varphi\left(M\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right)\right)$
$\le max\left\{d\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n-1}\right),\varepsilon,\varepsilon,\frac{1}{2}\left[d\left({x}_{n-1},{x}_{m}\right)+d\left({x}_{m-1},{x}_{n}\right)\right]\right\}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)$. We have proved that ${c}_{N}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)>{c}_{N+1}$ (if $\varepsilon$ is small enough). This is impossible. Thus, we must have $c=0$

Question: How ${c}_{N}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)>{c}_{N+1}$ is condratiction ? I didnt understand...Please can you help me ? Thank you for your attention...Best wishes :)
It is hard to make sense of this because you have not said how the sequence $\{x_n\}$ is defined.
 
oh, excuse me dear opalg,

${x}_{n}=T{x}_{n-1}={T}^{n}{x}_{0}$. ${x}_{0}$ is arbitrary point in X metric space
 
ozkan12 said:
oh, excuse me dear opalg,

${x}_{n}=T{x}_{n-1}={T}^{n}{x}_{0}$. ${x}_{0}$ is arbitrary point in X metric space
Looking at the proof more carefully, I think that that definition is wrong. It looks as though the correct definition should be ${x}_{n}=T{x}_{n-1}$ if $n$ is even, and ${x}_{n}=S{x}_{n-1}$ if $n$ is odd.

I still fail to understand how this proof works, because it starts by claiming that $d(x_{n+1},x_n)$ can be made less than $\varepsilon$ for all sufficiently large $n$. I cannot see anything that might justify that.

However, if the proof is correct, it appears to show that ${c}_{N}-\varphi\!\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)>{c}_{N+1}$ for all sufficiently large $N$ (if $\varepsilon$ is small enough). This would mean that $${c}_{N+1} < {c}_{N}-\varphi\!\left(\tfrac{c}{2}\right),$$ $${c}_{N+2} < {c}_{N+1}-\varphi\!\left(\tfrac{c}{2}\right) < {c}_{N}-2\varphi\!\left(\tfrac{c}{2}\right),$$ $$\vdots$$ $${c}_{N+k} < {c}_{N}-k\varphi\!\left(\tfrac{c}{2}\right),$$ and for $k$ large enough the right side of that last inequality would become negative. That is clearly impossible, because ${c}_{N+k}$ has to be positive.
 
Dear professor Opalg,

Why right side of last inequality would become negative for "k" large enough ? I didnt understand...Can you explain..? Thank you for your attention :)
 
ozkan12 said:
Why right side of last inequality would become negative for "k" large enough ? I didnt understand...Can you explain..? Thank you for your attention :)
Try to work this one out for yourself. If you take a positive quantity (${c}_{N}$) and you subtract larger and larger multiples of another positive quantity ($\varphi\!\left(\tfrac{c}{2}\right)$), then eventually the result will become negative. That's not graduate-level analysis, it's primary school arithmetic.
 
Thank you dear Opalg, I think so but to ensure, I ask this...Thank you sou much, thank you for your attention :)
 
Dear professor,

How we get

${C}_{N+2}\le{C}_{N+1}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)$
${C}_{N+3}\le{C}_{N+2}-\varphi\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)$
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By iteration ? Or by repating same process ?
 
İn this proof, I have some troubles...

First of all,

in ${c}_{n}=sup\left\{d\left({x}_{j},{x}_{k}\right):j,k\ge n\right\}$ why we use supremum ?

Also, How we know that $\left\{d\left({x}_{j},{x}_{k}\right):j,k\ge n\right\}$ has a supremum ? This set is not bounded...

Thank you for your attention...
 

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