Biggest recent mistakes in physics or any science.

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The discussion revolves around the concept of significant mistakes or misconceptions in the history of physics and other sciences, exploring how scientific understanding has evolved over time. Participants reflect on historical examples, recent developments, and the implications of increased accuracy in measurements and theories.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that many past scientific measurements were the best possible at the time, leading to incorrect conclusions that have since been refined with more accurate methods.
  • One participant points out that biology has advanced significantly, revealing complexities in DNA and RNA interactions that challenge previous understandings.
  • Historical examples, such as the Catholic Church's opposition to Galileo and Kepler's skepticism, are cited as significant mistakes in the acceptance of scientific ideas.
  • There is mention of the evolving understanding of the age of the Earth, which has changed from 2.5 billion years to 4.5 billion years due to advancements in radioactivity knowledge.
  • Participants discuss misconceptions in geology prior to the acceptance of plate tectonics, noting that many earlier beliefs were based on the best available science at the time.
  • In cosmology, the discovery of the accelerating expansion of the universe is noted as a surprising development that did not significantly alter estimates of the universe's age.
  • In particle physics, the realization that neutrinos have mass challenges previous assumptions that they were massless, prompting revisions in textbooks.
  • The human genome project revealed that the number of genes in the human genome is far fewer than previously estimated, leading to a reevaluation of what was considered 'junk DNA.'

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the historical significance of certain mistakes while others highlight the ongoing nature of scientific discovery and the complexity of refining established ideas. No consensus is reached on a singular "biggest mistake" in science.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that many earlier scientific conclusions were based on the best available knowledge and that advancements in measurement techniques have led to significant revisions in understanding. The discussion reflects the evolving nature of scientific knowledge and the challenges of reconciling past beliefs with new discoveries.

  • #31
nismaratwork said:
Well, while you're correcting the fellow/lass, maybe mention "intron" and "exon"?

Certainly.

The genome is divided into "Introns" and "Exons". Exons are the part of DNA that actually codes for genes, introns sit in the middle not coding. When a gene is expressed the whole sequence is transcribed into RNA. The introns are then 'sliced' from the RNA leaving just the coding section, this RNA (called messenger RNA) binds with other RNA called Ribosomes, these read the mRNA and build proteins.

Example

deaeg3w4yr r3qtibos3t5ome ple32455ase mareht5ke soge46me pr35bot875ein

This is the DNA, it's faithfully transcribed to RNA which then has the introns removed

dea--(eg3w4y)--r r--(3qt)--ibos--(3t5)--ome ple--(32455)--ase ma--(reht5)--ke so--(ge46)--me pr--(35b)--ot--(875)--ein

to become...

dear ribosome please make some protein
 
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  • #32
ryan_m_b said:
Certainly.

The genome is divided into "Introns" and "Exons". Exons are the part of DNA that actually codes for genes, introns sit in the middle not coding. When a gene is expressed the whole sequence is transcribed into RNA. The introns are then 'sliced' from the RNA leaving just the coding section, this RNA (called messenger RNA) binds with other RNA called Ribosomes, these read the mRNA and build proteins.

Example

deaeg3w4yr r3qtibos3t5ome ple32455ase mareht5ke soge46me pr35bot875ein

This is the DNA, it's faithfully transcribed to RNA which then has the introns removed

dea--(eg3w4y)--r r--(3qt)--ibos--(3t5)--ome ple--(32455)--ase ma--(reht5)--ke so--(ge46)--me pr--(35b)--ot--(875)--ein

to become...

dear ribosome please make some protein

re: bolding: :smile:

Heh... thanks Ryan_m_b, artfully said!
 
  • #33
Phrak said:
I have a 1934 edition. What to compare figures?
Yeah, compare the masses of the three pions \pi^{0}, \pi^{+}, and \pi^{-}
 

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